I haven’t seen any thread about this. It’s so sad… https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/08/09/report-wake-forest-assistant-charged-in-deadly-new-york-city-attack-on-a-tourist/23499537/
Those of us who live in NYC and watch local news were inundated with requests to come forward if you had any info about the tourist’s death.
I heard the story, my gosh that’s terrible. I’ve been waiting for uber’s before and been told they’re in a black suv only to see about 20 lined up.
I read the original story, where they were looking for the guy, and then this morning I read the article that it was the Wake assistant coach. I wasn’t there - He may have over-reacted. He might have punched the guy really hard, but the scary sad truth is you could get in a dispute with someone, push them, and they could fall down hit their head and die and you would find yourself in the same situation - charged with manslaughter.
Or… not to change the subject… you could push someone and they could fall down, pull a gun and shoot you dead. Seems like a good idea to avoid physical contact.
I was involved in a situation a number of years ago, an insurance claim, I was an outside observer. It was an incident at a health club where one member (45 y/o) was not obeying the rules and another member (60 y/o+) confronted him. The confrontation turned into a pushing match and ultimately the 45 y/o was pushed to the ground and broke his wrist. Not an awful injury compared to what we have seen lately but wait.
The injured party was a pediatric heart surgeon and due to the break could never operate again. He had been making $750,000 a year prior to the injury and ended up with a teaching job at $250,000. The other individual was held liable for the lost wages over the remainder of his expected career. Do the math, half a million a year for the next 15+ years, plus medical bills, pain and suffering, etc. The total suit was for over $15,000,000 and yes the 60 year old did not have enough insurance coverage.
The moral I took away from this was to just walk away. You never know who you are going to confront and what it may cost you. This moral seems to span over a number of current topics in the parent forums.
“The moral I took away from this was to just walk away. You never know who you are going to confront and what it may cost you.”
I agree. I remember the news story shared on the witnessing child abuse thread where the man hitting his daughter in the subway threatened to kill the man who tried to intervene.
And I was also thinking while reading that thread that one never knows when a gun could be pulled out.
Just. Walk. Away.
…on the next episode of What Would You Do, hosted by John Quiñones.
From what I read, the guy who died was very drunk and making a disturbance. I think he was also a fairly big guy and in good shape. He was walking up to cars and pounding on them trying to find an Uber he’d ordered.
Now this coach could have just stayed in his car but didn’t. Two big athletic guys, one drunk, what could have gone wrong?
Here in Florida there’s a pretty good chance that at least half the people in the cars are armed. Not a good idea to drunkenly knock on windows and create a scene… likely to be shot. And I guess judging from the latest Stand Your Ground Case, the shooter might not even be charged with a crime.
It never ceases to amaze me when I see people getting in arguments with another driver for whatever reason. There are a heck of a lot of jerks out there, probably a disproportionate number of them are armed; you do the math.
Lot more to this story. Wonder if they have any camera footage? I don’t think a guy just gets out of his car a slugs a guy.
People do stupid things. I work for retail company and all the employees are trained NOT to resist if a weapon is pulled and not to chase down a bad guy. Yet, we have cashiers slapping guns down and tackling bad guys in the heat of the moment.
If the facts are as presented - that the victim was drunk, and had himself already assaulted another person, I would think an assault charge should be appropriate. His family wants stronger charges, but to me that ignores his part in what happened. Yes, Jones should have “walked away,” but we don’t know what the initial altercation was about. His biggest mistake was leaving after he punched him. He might have been treated differently if he had stayed and called police. I doubt it would have changed the outcome, but he might be seen in a better light.
Yes the fact that the victim had just punched someone else in the face puts this in a very different light than it was originally portrayed in the media I saw.
Very sad situation. My initial thought is that Jones may have been acting in self defense given Szabo’s previous actions. Certainly his attorney will argue that there was no intent to kill him. I think this is one of those unfortunate situations where what should have been a simple tussle with an intoxicated person ended up costing that person his life.
Yes I think there is video as there were at least photos of the coach driving away and they asked for help identifying him.
I suspect the argument will be he punched him and got out of there as fast as he could, not knowing that the guy had hit his head.
The guy sounds like he was drunk and obnoxious. The coach doesn’t need a huge argument but I suspect it will be something in that order and get dismissed or will be something very minor. Manslaughter sounds like a prosecutorial save face since the guy was an out of towner. I would be surprised if it ever sees trial. I feel sorry for the family of deceased.