<p>It wouldn’t surprise me if the universities privatize their graduate schools. I know there are already programs at Berkeley that function on tuition alone.</p>
<p>Bluebayou, can you do me one favor and reread my post #6? Nowhere did I reference Cal as having upped its frosh class to the point of the incoming fall numbers as being the most ever. I did reference this about UCLA’s:</p>
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<p>We should let it go, but have the last say if you wish.</p>
<p>As far as mom2kids is concerned, no surprise here. m2k, do you know anything of UC? You don’t hear any of us leftcoasters pretending to know anything about Alabama do you?</p>
<p>Flobot, the UC grad professional schools are essentially privatized already. Next will be the academic subjects.</p>
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That is untrue. There are 3 desks in a triple. I stayed in a triple just 3 years ago. -.-</p>
<p>The piece of furniture you’re one short is the dresser.</p>
<p>Actually drax, I quoted RML’s post #8, but incorrectly attributed it to you. That was my mistake for which I apologize. </p>
<p>RML posted that Cal “will enroll more freshmen students this year than in any year in its entire history.” </p>
<p>I’ve gotten good with the quote boxes, now I just need to get the citations correct. :(</p>
<p>Bluebayou:</p>
<p>I gotcha… I also apologize for not looking harder for it as I couldn’t find it in my post and was a bit bewildered.</p>
<p>You mentioned UCSD and lower enrollments…</p>
<p>This year is the lowest enrollment of the school within the last three years, with the peak being in 2010 if I remember correctly.</p>
<p>This coupled with an increase of NR’s meant that the U doubled this group from 9 to 18% in just one year.</p>
<p>SD’s problem has always been a very poor yield, this year’s and many prior years < 20%. I think with SIR’s they came up with 19%, which is lower most UCs. Same with xfers in, ~ 20%.</p>
<p>It’s pretty hard to build a frosh class of 4,500 when it would have to accept > 22,500 students. </p>
<p>Wrt xfers the school has decided to have a minimum of 3.5 for TAG starting for incoming xfers of 2012 and beyond. I’m just curious as to what its yield will be then and if xfers dry up.</p>
<p>I don’t know if that 18% will help enough to offset the drop in enrollment for the U not to cut classes.</p>
<p>UW regents approve 20 percent tuition hike</p>
<p>By KOMO Staff & News Services Published: Jun 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM PDT Last Updated: Jun 30, 2011 at 5:32 PM PDT</p>
<p>SEATTLE – It’s now official: undergraduate students at the University of Washington will pay 20 percent more for tuition next year.</p>
<p>The university’s board of regents made the final decision Thursday morning.</p>
<p>Next fall, undergraduate tuition and fees will total $10,574 for an in-state student. Out-of-state tuition will jump 10 percent to $27,230.</p>
<p>Students weren’t thrilled with the news.</p>
<p>“I’m really actually angry about tuition going up right now,” said UW-Tacoma student David Moseley. “It’s really affecting me, my family and everyone else around the campus. I know a lot of people are trying to transfer right now.”</p>
<p>A student at the regent’s meeting told officials their decision will affect students’ lies and futures.</p>
<p>“People in this room might not be able to come back next year because of this tuition increase,” he said.</p>
<p>The tuition hikes are even more daunting for international students because they pay four times as much – now $40,000 a year.</p>
<p>“If we can’t afford it, we have to go back out of the country because we don’t have enough money to pay for tuition anymore,” said Nhat Bui, an international student from Vietnam.</p>
<p>University leaders said when the Legislature pulled back money, they needed to offset that with tuition increases.</p>
<p>One regent called it one of the most difficult votes they have ever made.</p>
<p>“Every regent in the state of Washington, I believe, is doing the best they can do under these conditions,” said regent Herb Simon. “Have we solved the problem? No. Are we working on it as best we can? Darn right we are.”</p>
<p>Interim university president Phyllis Wise says she hopes the hikes will allow them to offer $37 million more in financial aid.</p>
<p>Up to this year, the legislature had set the tuition rates. But when lawmakers took money away, they gave universities and colleges the power to raise their own rates. </p>
<p>Source: [UW</a> regents approve 20 percent tuition hike | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News | Local & Regional](<a href=“http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124797409.html?skipthumb=Y]UW”>http://www.komonews.com/news/local/124797409.html?skipthumb=Y)</p>
<p>UWashington’s tuition is about at the same level as UWisconsin’s. Compared to California and Illinois (our neighboring state’s flagships), these tuition levels are still reasonable. The UWashington regents are hoping to be able to offer more financial aid (presumably to in-state students), which may dull some of the pain for some and perhaps more students than ever.</p>
<p>As for international and OOS students, the legislature has decided not to subsidize their tuition to the same extent. I know it hurts, but this is the economic reality of college costs now. It is a luxury to attend school in another country/state, and shouldn’t be expected to be cheap.</p>
<p>Well said, MereMom.</p>
<p>International students often come to U.S. colleges with significant subsidy or $$ support/sponsorship in hand from the homeland or families. For such students a U.S. college education is luxury.</p>
<p>The whole “forced tripling” as far as dorms go is not a bad thing. A lot of people in this thread are talking about that like it’s a valid reason to not go to UCLA…disagreed! Having experienced living in a double and a triple, I found the triple much more pleasant. It’s not really that big of a deal. Of course…I’d take a single over all of the above.</p>
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That is not correct. International students pay the same as OOS. The only difference is that they are entitled to federal financial aids.</p>
<p>*not entitled</p>
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<p>"A group of nearly two dozen former University of California chancellors has proposed a drastic tuition increase.</p>
<p>The UC Berkeley paper, the Daily Cal, is reporting. UC President Mark Yudof convened the group in the summer and they’ve come back with a suggestion of raising tuition to $24,000 a year for California students and increasing the number of out-of-state and international students, who pay more."</p>
<p>[Nearly</a> two dozen former UC chancellors propose tuition increase | abc7news.com](<a href=“http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=8383071]Nearly”>http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/education&id=8383071)</p>
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<p>No kidding!? $24,000 a year tuition for IS Californian…</p>
<p>The article says that the recommendation is non-binding. They’d be laughed at by everybody if tuition rose to those levels since the only universities in the system <em>maybe</em> worth paying that much for are berkeley and UCLA. I think if that happened, people would just go to cheaper alternatives like UNC or michigan.</p>
<p>*The article says that the recommendation is non-binding. They’d be laughed at by everybody if tuition rose to those levels since the only universities in the system <em>maybe</em> worth paying that much for are berkeley and UCLA. I think if that happened, people would just go to cheaper alternatives like UNC or michigan. *</p>
<p>Fine, let them go elsewhere; it’s not like the UCs won’t find others to take their seats.</p>
<p>However, UMich costs $50k per year as an OOS student, so that really wouldn’t be cheaper. UNC wouldn’t be much cheaper and is very hard to get into OOS.</p>
<p>More likely is that more kids would choose just to commute to their local UC if they can.</p>
<p>I can see why the UCs need money - the Blue and Gold promise is very costly and some of the funding is coming from those who are paying full tuition (aka fees).</p>
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<p>Those are not necessarily less expensive for an out-of-state student.</p>
<p>Minnesota and Virginia Tech would be the out-of-state bargains. Engineering students might try to pile into Cal Poly SLO.</p>
<p>*Engineering students might try to pile into Cal Poly SLO. *</p>
<p>Both Cal Polys would get a bunch of more apps…as well as Long Beach and Fullerton.</p>
<p>Or you’re going to see more kids doing TAG.</p>
<p>While UNCC is an extremely difficult admit OOS, it’s less expensive than other top schools. OOS tuition is $26k, and COA is $41k. </p>
<p>UVa is $50k OOS, but unlike most publics, UVa provides full need-based aid to OOS students.</p>
<p>Not for long. They (Uva) are studying that right now as need aid was much more than expected due to adverse selection. Before they attracted mostly rich OOS so not really a big promise. That changed.</p>
<p>“if tuition rose to those levels since the only universities in the system <em>maybe</em> worth paying that much for are berkeley and UCLA.”</p>
<p>Agreed. Irregardless, I think both UCB and UCLA (flagships) will do just fine… but not so much the mid/lower-tier UCs. - says a former Californian (me)</p>
<p>“Minnesota and Virginia Tech would be the out-of-state bargains. Engineering students might try to pile into Cal Poly SLO.”</p>
<p>I agree with the Cal Poly for the Engineering students; however, I think Vtech runs just as much as Wisky in terms of OOS tuition, and Wisconsin is a way better school overall. Minnesota would run $18k for OOS tuition - an excellent choice except the harsh weather for Californian. For the qualified students, TOSU offers $8700 National Buckeye Scholarship for OOS students which would bring the OOS tuition cost down to $14k a year. Plus the school is ranked #55, #8 up and coming tied with USC via USNWR. For Engineering students from California looking to go OOS, I would strongly suggest either UIUC or Purdue. They are highly ranked than many of the UCs in terms of Engineering specialties. Plus the cost of living is substantially cheaper in the Midwest than the West coast. Last but not least, for those who enjoy warmer climate, both Alabama and Clemson offer tuition waiver, perfect for those qualified students, especially for their Honors Program.</p>
<p>Virginia Tech’s OOS costs are pretty low compared to many other publics: [Cost</a> of Attendance](<a href=“http://www.admiss.vt.edu/cost.php]Cost”>http://www.admiss.vt.edu/cost.php)
Although “other” costs are not listed, they won’t bring the cost up to that of Wisconsin, UIUC, or Purdue for OOS.</p>