10th Grader and Ivies and Top Schools

Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>I'm a sophmore going into my Junior year at a small private school in FL. I did swich schools after my Freshman year because of a move (both schools I have been at are private schools. I am ahead of my grade level in thinking about college, but It's never to early!</p>

<p>I am probably going to apply to these colleges below, a lot may be real reaches (especially the top four), but I might as well apply, for application fees are not an issue.</p>

<p>Harvard
Princeton
Stanford
Brown
U Penn- Wharton
Duke
Columbia
Cornell-Thinking about Early Decision because of the increased Acceptance n Rate for applying early
Dartmouth
Emory
Georgetown
Boston College
Tufts
New York University
University of Florida- Backup
University of Miami-Backup</p>

<p>SAT:
Practice tests range from (1950-2100) As a Sophmore</p>

<p>Grades/GPA:</p>

<p>8th Grade Highschool Credit Classes (school switched to letter grades the following year)
Algebra 1 Honors 80%
Spanish 2 Honors 91%
Biology Honors 83%</p>

<p>Freshman (at first school)
English 9- A
Algebra 2- A
Chemisty Honors- B+
Spanish 3 Honors- A
East & West Heratige- A
Expository Writing/Study Skills (1 sem)- A+
Physical Education (1 sem)- A
Personal Fitness (1 sem)- A
Intro to Computers I (1 sem)- A</p>

<p>GPA
UW:3.91
W:4.04(gave .5 extra for honors) (on a 4 point scale)</p>

<p>Sophmore (2nd school) (grade for each semester on transcript)
English 10 Honors- B+/ A-
Geomerty Honors- A+/ A+
Environmental Science- B+/ A
AP Econ (Micro and Macro)- B/ B+ (Pretty sure I got a 4 on both)
Spanish 4- B+/ A-
Computer Graphics Illustrator (1 sem)- A+
Computer Graphics Photoshop (1 sem)- A+
WellnessPE- Pass (No letter grade given)</p>

<p>GPA
UW-3.75
W-3.81 (Only give .33 for AP and 0 extra for Honors) would be 4.23 based on my old school weight system</p>

<p>Junior Schedule
AP Englsih Language
AP Statistics
AP US History
AP Biology
Honors Pre-Calculus
Spanish 5</p>

<p>Senior Intended Schedule
AP English Literature
AP Calculus AB
AP Gov't
AP Comparitive Govt
AP Spanish Language
Honors Physics</p>

<p>Extra Curriculars and Leadership and Awards (when I display 11 and 12 grade I intend to be on those in the future, but if I dont list something for future grades, it doesn't mean I won't be in that club/activity)</p>

<p>1.Future Business Leaders of America (9,10,11,12)
- Founder and President at my New school 10-12 grades
2.Career Club (10)
3.Photography Club (9)- Representative
4.Tennis Team (9,10,11,12)
- Coach's Award for 10th Grade
5.Prom Comittee (10,11)
6.Soccer Team (10)- considering 11,12
- A Team Captain
7.Football Team- Kicker (11,12)
8.National History Club(10,11,12)
-Treasurer 10th Grade and 11th
9. Strategiv Planning Commitee (9)
Community Service
Freshman- 25 Hours
Sophmore- 32 Hours</p>

<p>Work Experience
Summer 2005- Tennis Help at a Camp (Helped instruct campers during their tennis period)
Summer 2006- Tennis Instructor (Will probably get Hours instead of dollars in order to record as community service)</p>

<p>Thanks for taking the time to read all this, and I hope you can give me some idea of where I stand.</p>

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<p>Too early, come back in a year.</p>

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<p>You have too many B's.</p>

<p>But what do I know? I'm a seventh grader.</p>

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<p>Teaching tennis is kind of a stretch for meaningful community service. And I'd have to agree with Jonathan, unless you go to a very top private that sends 25% plus to ivies, you already have too many Bs for the top 7 on your list plus Dartmouth.</p>

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<p>6 B's isn't too many if you do really well Junior year, so try and get as many A's as you can next year.. don't want to start perpetuating a downward trend.</p>

<p>And yeah, come in a year, or better yet, not at all. That's the safest way to go, in my opinion.</p>

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<p>suze you are such an idiot.......how can you even say that without knowing the context of his school and his rank........his rank could be high even though he has alot of B's.........</p>

<p>anyways, how do you explain low-rank/gpa, unhooked applicants getting into top schools? It does happen, and he has a shot. If he gets straight A's junior year, he would have like 3.85, which is acceptable for ALL of those schools. </p>

<p>stop *<strong><em>ing talking ,you dont know *</em></strong></p>

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<p>jason444, are you Hockeystar2b?</p>

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<p>I am ranked around 11/120</p>

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<p>?????? no i am not the OP</p>

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<p>Okay, I was just wondering. I've never seen someone stick up for someone like that just because of his stats. lol.</p>

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<p>jason, dahling, I did qualify my comments in saying they were moot if he went to a very top school. I'm the first to understand this as my school sends aprox 35% to ivies plus S and M. But VERY few schools do, and I haven't seen any small Florida schools on the ivy feeder list. But I'm sure you're very smart Jas......Harvard will be so lucky to have you!!!</p>

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<p>you didnt seem to answer my question.......</p>

<p>how do you explain low-rank/gpa, unhooked applicants getting into top schools? It does happen, and he has a shot. If he gets straight A's junior year, he would have like 3.85, which is acceptable for ALL of those schools.</p>

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<p>jason, about half the the class at any top college is comprised of recruited athletes, URMs, legacies and kids of the rich and famous. Those are the people who get a break. The rest of the class needs to bring up the stats. Even those hooked candidates are mostly (usually about 90%) in the top 10% of their class. And legacies have to be darn close to the school average. Have you noticed the no ivy lets their average SAT score go down year over year. Do you think that's a cooincidence? The schools do exactly want they need to keep several stats in place: those in top 10%, number of vals, SAT averages along with numbers of URMs, by group, which hardly varies year over year. What all this means is that it's a myth that stats are not that important. People seemed shocked when Harvard rejected an olympic medalist with decent stats this year. Read the article on the parent's board where the reporter sat in with Middlebury adcoms and watched them just dismiss kids with a single C. If you break down Harvards numbers you'll see that only a small fraction of the unhooked (and those are only the identifiable hooks) could have had under a 1500 plus SAT last year. There is a reason these schools perpetuate the myth of their holistic approach--so that they can reject 10 of 11 applicants and keep their place in the US News rankings.</p>

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<p>yes...but how do you explain a non-hooked, low gpa/rank, getting in?</p>

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<p>This kid is top 10%, and if he does better in his junior year, he'll have some sort of a shot, although everything still will be reaches. </p>

<p>My advice: Expand one of your EC's - is there any way you could become ranked in tennis? If you could be recruited for a sport, that would totally change the dynamics, but of course its a feat that many cannot obtain in a year or two, but if you think you're up for it, I truly advise you to train hard and try. That would be your best shot at getting into an Ivy league school.</p>

<p>Also, keep in mind that an Ivy league education isn't the end all be all, and practically every university has opportunities that hardworking students can use to their advantage. So if you keep that in mind and strive for the best, you'll be in good shape.</p>

<p>Now try and pull yourself from college confidential and don't come back, heh!</p>

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<p>No chance for HPS, my opinion of course.</p>

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<p>Jason, I've not seen low stats kids that are nhooked get into top colleges. Never. Can you give us some examples or are you yet another ivy wannabe with below average stats who is hoping the holistic approach is true?</p>

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<p>Ah yes, a quick review displays Janson's post insisting that 3.5s should get into Stanford (on a snoy day in Palo Alto Jas) and that he has a very good friend, so good he did multiple posts on multiple threads for, who also has a 3.5 and is wondering if Harvard will count the online classes where he did better than a strong private school. Seriously doubt it Jas. I reqlly don't want to disillusion you, but giving some thought to who the idiot is might be worthwhile. Let's Chat next April.</p>

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<p>I completely agree with Suze.</p>

<p>Jason4444 seems like a dick to me.</p>

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<p>youve never seen below average stats getting in? </p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=190448&highlight=happy+low+gpa%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=190448&highlight=happy+low+gpa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=164145&highlight=happy+low+gpa%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=164145&highlight=happy+low+gpa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>^kid got in with a 3.7</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=125981&page=4&highlight=low+gpa%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=125981&page=4&highlight=low+gpa&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My friend got into Stanford this year with only a 4.5 out of 5 GPA, and 2100 SAT. He was deffered EA and accepted RD.</p>

<p>Flippy: You agree with Suze because im a dick? good reasoning.</p>