1180 SAT - December of 8th Grade

<p>My son scored 590 on both his verbal and math sections last December. He is in 8th grade. Has not had geometry yet.</p>

<p>Honor roll student at competive school. What would you project his SATs to be if he keeps up the good work?</p>

<p>Yes, I know they are going to revamp the scoring system,but please try to answer based on the old system.</p>

<p>Yes, I know this is very speculative.</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I got a 1090 in the 7th grade and ended up with a 1550 my Senior Year. Princeton Review SAT Prep books are what it's alllllll about.</p>

<p>Well, I know three cases of 1200 in 8th grade. Two of them had 1500s in junior year; the third had a 1200 in senior year.</p>

<p>A lot depends on whether the student is interested in learning.</p>

<p>Congrats to your son.</p>

<p>80 points per year per section might happen mostly "naturally" if he started at that level. But if school work keeps him too busy to READ independently, his verbal growth might be less. The secret of a high SAT I verbal score is to be a reader--read for fun, read everything. The secret of a high math score is to be someone who THINKS about math and doesn't just do it thoughtlessly. </p>

<p>For comparison, my son had a 570 verbal and an 800 math at age eleven ("sixth-grade" homeschooling) after taking a distance-learning course in geometry and a classroom-based honors algebra 1 course. He reads all the time--he is reading right now as I type this--and I will be very interested to see his ACT scores on the test he just took on Saturday. He lived in a non-English-speaking country from first-grade through third-grade age, and used to have vision problems, so he is "catching up" in reading but evidently making reasonable progress. </p>

<p>There is a pretty good research</a> base to suggest that a student scoring at or above 700 before the student's thirteenth birthday can probably count on 10 points per month in "natural" SAT score growth. So I did a little extrapolation to come up with the guess I provided for you above. </p>

<p>Best wishes as you encourage your son to keep up the good work.</p>

<p>From what I have seen among my childrens' classmates, your son could expect to add 50-100 points a year to his SAT total as he matures.</p>

<p>Your son's smart. As an 8th grader he scored higher than most of the people I know.</p>

<p>And I might add, learning for learning's sake.</p>

<p>Julian Stanley, of Hopkins CTY, told me that, of the 12 year olds who take the test, they see about a 150 point rise for each score. Since your son took it a year later, they'd estimate about a 125 point rise, as scores go up about 25 points per year, just due to maturity. I think tokenadult misunderstood something about SET, or misplaced a decimel point. 10 points per month would put these kids off scale by soph year!</p>

<p>As a reference point, my D scored 530v 610m just after she turned 12. Fall of her senior year, at age 16 (she skipped 8th grade) she scored 740v 750m - pretty consistent with Julian's estimates.</p>

<p>10 points per month is how they prorate for people who apply to the Study of Exceptional Talent (SET) who didn't take the test before their thirteenth birthday. That, of course, makes a hard upper limit of an age of thirteen years and ten months (with a score of 800 on one section) for getting into SET. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.jhu.edu/gifted/set/set_faq.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.jhu.edu/gifted/set/set_faq.html&lt;/a> </p>

<p>So there must be some thought that kids who are at that level (i.e. score of 700 on one section by age thirteen) can be counted on, in round figures, to have the 10 points per month of score growth, and indeed many of those kids have aced the SAT I in one or both sections well below usual college-applying age. </p>

<p>The original poster has meanwhile replied that his son is interested in learning for learning's sake, and that bodes well for his future in general and for gaining a sufficiently high SAT I score to be a competitive applicant when that time comes.</p>

<p>Daughter got a 1310 at the end of 7th grade and a 1570 in October of her junior year.</p>

<p>DD's schools estimates a 100 pt increase per year. DD had 1070 in 8th grade (higher math score) and 1490 in 11th grade (no time to prep, higher verbal.)</p>

<p>I had a 580 math, 610 verbal in....6th or 7th grade, don't totally remember, and got a 710 math, 800 verbal by fall of my senior year with little prep work (couple of practice tests, etc to improve math from a 680 that spring).</p>

<p>My 8th grade daughter scored 550V/610M in January. She too has had half a year of algebra I. I'd love to see a breakdown of those middle school scores vs. how far into the sequence of high school math a student has done prior to testing. The kids who score 600+ without a day of algebra probably have a higher expectation of gain vs kids who are already in algebra or geometry. I expect my daughter's verbal score will increase significantly but I'm not expecting her math to increase to the same degree.</p>

<p>My son scored 540V and 570M in 7th grade soon after his 12th birthday. He had no algebra until 8th grade. He scored 700V and 780M at the end of 10th grade and studied A LOT of vocabulary (Barron's) to get his final score of 790V and 800M in January of 11th grade.</p>

<p>Another point is, no one knows how all of this will be affected by the new SAT. Since the new SAT is more curriculum-based (in math), it should be more difficult for young students with high natural math ability to earn high scores if they haven't been exposed to the concepts in class.</p>

<p>As well as changes to the math portion of the SAT, the biggest change will be the introduction of a writing component. I would think this will make it harder for the SAT to be used as a gauge of raw talent and logical thinking, which is, I believe, the way it is currently used in Talent Searches, rather than as means of identifying younger students who are "college-ready" or as well-prepared as college-bound seniors.</p>

<p>Mine had an 800 verbal in 8th, math wasn't far behind, and she never took it again. Had there been a writing component, no one would have been able to read it! (But she's turned into a terrific writer...when there's a computer around.)</p>

<p>The new SAT will strongly discriminate against students from school districts without strong math curricula offerings. So what else is new?</p>

<p>For me:</p>

<p>1220 seventh grade
(610/610)</p>

<p>1560 senior year.
(780/780)</p>

<p>Oh. I didn't study / prep for either. Some Duke talent search or something dragged me into taking the test in 7th grade. Senior year test right before a football game.</p>

<p>I'm sure with actually prep, your child could probably do just as good if not better.</p>

<p>According to this equivalence thing they wrote on state tests I was in the 1200's in 5th-6th grade.</p>

<p>Sophomore year I took a practice and got 1510.</p>

<p>I had an 1160 in 8th grade, and my highest senior year was 1480 (740/740)</p>

<p>Sweet........</p>