<p>Well, it’s an interesting question as to what counts as “engineering” or “science”.</p>
<p>Also, lots of people think that “engineering” is synonymous with “hard” or “worthwhile”, to the detriment of other degrees… particularly things like the non-engineering sciences, such as CS, math, etc.</p>
<p>In my defense, vblick started it.</p>
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<p>Again, elitism. I don’t think anyone actually genuinely cares what CS is classified as. It’s more of “My major is harder, and therefore better than yours, which of course means, I’m better than you hence why I waste so much time trying to prove how much harder it is. I win. Teehee. Teehee. Hee.”</p>
<p>This coming from an engineering major. It’s stupid.</p>
<p>AMT:</p>
<p>hey you pretty much paraphrased my post from a while back. give credit where it is due. caveat emptor.</p>
<p>and i want your input on my post earlier in this thread! you must respond to my post!</p>
<p>I’ll be the first to admit that my major of petroleum engineering is nowhere near as difficult compared to something like electrical where you have to calculate magnetic vector fields, which I know nothing about and don’t really care. I’ll give props to the EE’s. Basically what you people are doing is comparing apples to oranges. I have realized though, that CS majors are probably some of the hardest working folks I’ve ever seen. I remember hearing individuals talking about how they only got <2 hours of sleep for the past 5 days, working on some programming project. There is no way you could get me to do that, I don’t care. While ya’ll can sit around saying your major is harder than mine, I can always reply back with, hahah, I make more money than you do, haha, see how childish.</p>
<p>Also, I myself wouldn’t consider half of the engineering majors worth while. I mean honestly, unless you have a passion for a particular industry you want to work in, major in something else besides engineering. I mean for the love of God, you’ll miss out on a lot of life and socializing if you don’t. Especially the poor CS majors, you couldn’t pay me enough money to do that job.</p>
<p>of course cs is not engineering.
software engineering, the application of cs to solve problems and develop products, is engineering.</p>
<p>But who cares? Its still challenging and interesting regardless of how we classify it.</p>
<p>Interesting how a lot of people talk down on Engineering Technology when they are only making 2k less than Mechanical Engineers…</p>
<p>I also know that Petroleum Geologists get paid top dollar right out of school, as well…</p>
<p>If you check most job postings, most companies don’t hire technologists so engineering technology majors (speaking about a 4 year ABET accredited bachelors) are being hired as engineers most of the time which explains only a 2k less starting salary.</p>
<p>I like how they forgot nuclear engineers COMPLETELY. </p>
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<p>Nuclear engineering “combats” petroleum quite competively for salaries. I got to represent my major.</p>
<p>But I think that article is bunch of crap anyway. What about the Medical field? They make WAY more than we do. What about Lawyers? Engineers make good money but certainly not the highest.</p>
<p>Edit: and just for the record, I think Computer Science might as well be considered engineering. Its technical enough IMO.</p>
<p>Perhaps there weren’t enough nuclear engineering majors in the NACE survey to count. Just a guess.</p>
<p>Medicine and law are not college majors and thus do not get their own category in this survey.</p>
<p>“Medicine and law are not college majors and thus do not get their own category in this survey.”</p>
<p>ah OK. but they still left us Nuclear kids out :P</p>
<p>They only mean real engineers.</p>
<p>Where’s Civil Engineering? :(</p>
<p>pretty sure the survey only includes jobs that could be attained from a single undergrad degree.</p>
<p>“Where’s Civil Engineering?”
<p>"They only mean real engineers. "</p>
<p>Are u bombin on nuclear engineers?</p>
<p>while engineering does pay pretty good, it in no way pays better than the trades. </p>
<p>As for if CS is engineering, I say yes. At least my diploma says I have a engineering degree from the school of engineering, doesnt even mention CS.</p>
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<p>Nope id say its harder. I was a EE major and switched to CS because I wanted more of a challenge.</p>
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<p>They made a mistake. Rank no. 8 should be Civil Engineering. Like ME people say, IE is Imaginary Engineering and it’s not real.</p>
<p>Yeah, to say that engineering is harder than CS is a joke. I have friends who majored in CS and they literally had to sell there souls to the curriculum. I’m not even going to step forth and say that any engineering rivals the difficulty and time investment of CS. Anyone who thinks different is oblivious.</p>
<p>Member, about the trades making more than engineering, that is true. I have family members who have consistently made more than engineers in areas like manufacturing. I have several friends that are machinist who make around 80k-90k. While the engineers who work in there plant make around 70k a year. Now you tell me who is coming out ahead in that deal. Sure, the machinist might work longer hours, but the fact is you don’t have to deal with the level of stress an engineer has to deal with. Not to mention they don’t kick machinst out the door like they do engineers. Of course, this is in a oil field related manufacturing plant, I can’t comment on other areas. But I know of men that are well into there 70’s still working as machinist while engineers get kicked out on the street like a bunch of wild dogs. If they keep you until your 50 that is ripe old age.</p>
<p>LSU it all depends on the lifestyle you choose. Being a engineer requires lots of metal work, while the trades physical work. My grandfather always told me a pencil is lighter than a shovel, so I took his word. If you don’t mind coming home everyday physically exhausted, then a trade is a great job and they all make really good money. But to be honest, i think id rather make a bit less but still have the ability to come home and still have fun with my life. </p>
<p>Ive seen way to many people in my life who are so exhausted when they come home from work and Im not sure if thats for me. It all comes down to if you want physical or mental stress. I can take alot more mental than physical.</p>