<p>since it's worth it in college, i just might.</p>
<p>I am not involved, but I STILL can't understand how huge publics have the time to compare/understand GPA's from thousands of schools without using class rank, rigor, etc....UMich pulls the same crap with admissions; deferring/waitlisting/rejecting >1400 SAT kids with lower (3.5, 3.6 top rank AP's etc) gpa's, while accepting 4.0's from grade inflated schools.....</p>
<p>class of 2011 hs grads take note: take the classes that give you the highest GPA if you want to go public.....</p>
<p>and if you're not a URM, nothing is safe for UF......or even then it's not.......</p>
<p>FWIW, I think UCF, especially honors, is a more preferable school......</p>
<p>edit: and I posted this b4 I saw mom2three's post!!</p>
<p>thanks! but i did get into uf. i guess it just makes me upset when people rag on other peoples hard work</p>
<p>my thoughts exactly on UCF's honors programs.
interestingly enough, i'm the only UF applicant at my school that actually could have gotten into their honors program.</p>
<p>gez122-
there are lot of raw wounds right now. My hope is that some of the sour grapes are due to that. I feel the same way you do (especially after seeing brilliant, lazy kids from my school crash and burn, while the kids who have always had to work hard just keep working hard, and succeeding).</p>
<p>Some of the folks who are ragging on hard workers need the tincture of time to get over this disappointment. When folks get hurt in a way that they feel is unfair, a lot of people will lash out and want to find someone to blame. If a 17 or 18 year old is going to do that, an anonymous forum (as opposed to hurtful comments in person to a classmate) is the place to do it, IMO.</p>
<p>Which 1300/29+ were out of state? I'm sure there are exceptions but a quick scan tells me the squeeze is on OSS...</p>
<p>in state here. many others. a friend got rejected with a 1350, 4.0 UW.</p>
<p>The main difference between ranking a student in his class and a standardized testing score is that a class rank only compares you to the students in your class.<br>
A standardized test such as the SAT compares you to all other thousands of students that took that exact same test on that Saturday morning.</p>
<p>thank you that was very well put.</p>
<p>High grades shows colleges that you work hard. Its even better when backed up by a good class rank. Hard work is what makes America great. Wherever you go to college you can do well & be successful. Its up to you- not where you go to college.</p>
<p>Years ago our local newspaper went around and asked assorted super successful, prominent &/or wealthy people in our town what they got on their SATs. Most didn't remember, some got 1100-1200, a few 1300-1400s, some never took the test.</p>
<p>i'm sorry but to me you just can't beat hard work.</p>
<p>Some people simply aren't good test-takers. Why should their hard work during four years. extremely high GPA and great class rank be ignored because of a TEST. If they're getting such good grades, it shows they can handle hard work and hard classes, and so they should be fine at UF or any college.</p>
<p>Last year, when my niece was accepted to UF with extremely low scores (21 ACT, 1020 SAT's), we were astonished, especially after hearing of so many well-qualified students being rejected. She graduated from a high school where there were very few UF acceptances. When her rank and GPA were compared to HER school, she looked like the scholar. You might ask, "How are her grades at UF now?" Well, she has to study hard for classes that some might consider very easy. She is not a math or science major, and is going to major in Communications. She participates in study groups and spends many hours in the library. Now...2009...my son was just accepted with 2120 SAT's and 30 ACT, along with a 4.6 UF GPA, with an intended major of aerospace engineering. My point is, they both worked hard to get a UF acceptance. There are some kids that my son knows that did not get accepted and had the grades and test scores. Is it "fair" as we normally refer to the word? No, it isn't. It feels horrible not to get something when you feel you deserve it and have worked hard for it. Many of you sound like great students, and I'm sure you have received or will be receiving many acceptances from other schools. Good luck to each of you.</p>
<p>I find it absolutely ridiculous that there are college aged students that still feel the need to call a person whom they don't even know "rather retarded" on a message board. As a matter of fact, I'm appalled. I completely agree with jonjon1324, and to go a step further, there are multiple types of intelligences. There are stunning artists, moving pianists, award winning mathematicians, etc. who might not have the skills to score excellently on the SATs, yet they are geniuses in their own right. And there are a number of reasonably intelligent people who are motivated, hard working, and involved, yet they just can't break 1000 on the SAT. Does this mean that they should be rejected from a university that's barely in the top 50? We're not talking about Harvard or Yale, we're talking about a decent state school, where a little bit of elbow grease is going to go a lot farther than just naked intelligence. Obviously the people with low SAT scores had something to offer the University of Florida that the people who were rejected didn't. Should some of these rejected people have been accepted? Maybe. But hey, that's life. And as another note, a bit of humility about your abilities in relation to other people's goes a long way in the workforce. Some of these "rather retarded" people will soon be your bosses...oops?</p>
<p>it's the internet. and i'm glad to hear you stepping down to my level with that last statement. it's nice down here.</p>
<p>Wow, I didn't realize my post kinda sparked a pretty heated discussion. Now, I understand and to a certain degree, agree with why you all are mad about people with much lower test scores getting in while you did not.</p>
<p>Here's my thought. If UF didn't want to accept you than I know there are hundreds of other excellent schools that will. With 1300+ on your SAT, you're in the top 5% (or top 7%, can't remember which) of all test takers. Like some other people said, the Burnett Honors College at UCF is a good choice, and so are other a myriad of schools.</p>
<p>What I don't agree with is the idea that students with an extremely high GPA but lower-end test score do not deserve to get admitted. With my school, I doubt we have much grade inflation, especially in our AP classes when the pass rate is in 70%+. My friend received As in all those classes, and that proves that she can be successful in college-level courses. Also, I noticed a poster said that they would like to see her in a Calc class doing 50 problems in an hour. Well, she's in Calc BC and got a 5 on the AB test last year, so I think she could probably manage fine in a calc class in UF. I'm just saying that I'm sure that these types of students can succeed and thrive in college even if they aren't naturally "gifted" or "smart".</p>
<p>i'm not saying they didn't deserve to be admitted, i'm saying people with high SAT's deserve to be accepted.</p>
<p>rockerguyasj-</p>
<p>I'll go one step further and say that I'm sure that these types of students can succeed and thrive in college BECAUSE they aren't naturally "gifted" or "smart".
That's right. They have learned that they can conquer difficult material through effort. What an advantage as they head to college. SO many of the gifted kids I teach think that if they don't get something right away it's not "their thing," because so much of their learning has always been virtually effortless. </p>
<p>I've done some reading on this, and one characteristic of giftedness is that when presented with new material, the learning is so fast and automatic that it's hard for these kids to cope when something isn't that way. And very often that point doesn't hit until college, and suddenly there are few study skills to fall back on, and they don't realize that they have screwed up a class until it's too late.</p>
<p>I have three "gifted" kids myself. I am a HUGE believer in EFFORT.</p>
<p>"FWIW, I think UCF, especially honors, is a more preferable school......"</p>
<p>If you want to work in Orlando it's a good option. UF has the name recognition to provide employment throughout the United States. BTW: FSU has a more established brand-name in comparison to UCF. It's going to take decades for people outside of Florida to think of UCF, USF, FIU, and FAU as more than anything than a Commuter School.</p>