<p>Early action apps increased by a little over 3% from last year, with the figure subject to adjustment as those with common app issues continue to be resolved:
The</a> Cavalier Daily :: University admissions receives 14,309 early applications</p>
<p>Wow. They could fill the entire class with EA alone if they desired.</p>
<p>How many students will be admitted out of these early applications?</p>
<p>When we were at the UVA info session in March, they told us applying Early Action or ED does not increase your chances. The admissions counselor – I think her last name was “leLond” – said the school does not want to give any advantage to ED/EA students vs. regular decision. Again, this is my recollection. But I am astonished some 14000 kids applied early action. That’s incredible. We live in Virginia and are concerned that UVA will take some 30 percent of their freshman class from out of state and are unsure if our kids can get in.</p>
<p>Proudfather- UVa offers Early Action which is non binding. Early Decision is binding and not offered by UVa. UVa is required by the General Assembly to keep a ratio of 2/3 instate: 1/3 OOS. This doesn’t change year to year. There should be no concern about instate students getting in because of OOS students. Instate applicants and OOS applicants are NEVER competing for the same slots. Instate competition is only effected by the quality and number of instate applicants. Instate students have those 2/3 slots available. No OOS student ever ‘takes the spot’ of an instate student. This is a common misconception. If you want to get really technical, there are ten distinct applicant pools and available spaces for each: instate and OOS for College of Arts & Sciences, Engineering, Nursing, Architecture & Kinesiology. </p>
<p>What you understand about EA is correct. UVa reads these applications no differently. What is common with EA applicants is they tend to be stronger applicants. These students have their strongest applications ready to go in the fall, they don’t need to retest, wait for a bump in grades. Any slightly higher admit rate is because these are very qualified applicants that would have been accepted in RD as well.</p>
<p>@ProudFather, most people have trouble with that name, which is why students call me Dean J. :)</p>
<p>We have Early Action (that’s the non-binding one) vs. Early Decision (binding). I try not to even say “Early Decision” in sessions so people don’t associate it with UVa. We had it once upon a time, but got rid of it.</p>
<p>My message is that the review is exactly the same, regardless of when a student applies. There are schools that “read easy” during early rounds and some can fill the majority of their class with the early group.</p>
<p>It is far easier to be admitted as a Virginia resident. Last year, we admitted 42.2% of the Virginians who applied and 24.6% of the non-Virginians who applied. Here are historical stats:
[IAS</a> Historical Data: First-Time First-Year Applicants by Residency](<a href=“http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studat/hist/admission/first_by_residency.htm]IAS”>http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studat/hist/admission/first_by_residency.htm)</p>
<p>For UVa, don’t look at overall offer rates, since they average the VA and OOS (out of state) rates. Look at the two groups separately. </p>
<p>I’m not ready to give a total number since there are still incomplete applications. Right now, the number is a tad higher than the one we had on November 4th (when Cav Daily published that blurb). Our official total app numbers are for completed applications, not just submitted ones. You can see separate columns for “submitted” and “completed” here:
[UVa</a> - First-Time First-Year Admission](<a href=“http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studat/dd/adm_first.htm]UVa”>http://avillage.web.virginia.edu/iaas/instreports/studat/dd/adm_first.htm)</p>
<p>Proud – as Dean J notes, there’s really only one advantage to EA as practiced by UVA. If you apply early then you will hear early. That’s it.</p>
<p>In the past few years, UVA has deferred a big chunk of the EA applicants. So they don’t get a yes or no early. They roll over into the RD pool and get a yes or no when the RD decisions come out in late March.</p>
<p>Is it fair to that the OOS admits are stronger students - namely because they competed for fewer spots?</p>
<p>^^YES. On Average, the OOS student pool is superior to the in-state Virginia pool.</p>
<p>To get in OOS or IS you need to have a strong application packet. To say OOS are superior to IS is pushing it. Believe it or not there are many many strong IS students, and I am not referring solely to TJ, that are at the same level as OOS, maybe even stronger. It is not a walk in the park to get into UVa IS. You have to be the best of the best in your high school.</p>
<p>Living61 – fair/unfair is the wrong way to look at it. There are all kinds of preferences used at all kinds of schools. In vs out of state; legacies vs non-legacies; recruited athletes vs. non-athletes; minority candidates vs. non-minority; males vs females; ED vs. RD; and on and on and on.</p>
<p>For budgetary reasons, it is actually now easier to get into Cal or UCLA OOS than IS. Is that fair?</p>
<p>It is even tougher to get into UNC-CH OOS than UVA because UNC-CH is only 19% OOS vs. 33% at UVA. Is that fair?</p>
<p>The advantage of EA is the parents…, kids, I mean kids, find out sooner so they can enjoy the remainder of their senior year. Or maybe I’m just thinking about our household. :)</p>
<p>Northwesty, “fair” was the wrong word. I should have asked is it accurate.</p>
<p>When do they expect to release the EA results this year? Last year they were released on Jan 11th even though they have until Jan 31st.</p>
<p>Baron, we don’t know yet. We have a lot to read! Applications are up a little bit right now (we’ll see how many wind up being complete), so I don’t think we’ll be as early as in the past.</p>
<p>When we had a paper process, we knew when we’d release a good week in advance because that last week wasn’t spent reading…it was spent printing and stuffing letters. </p>
<p>These days, notification is done online. When we are done, we release.</p>
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<p>This is what we’ve been told but apparently it is not true and does change.</p>
<p>According to the Washington Post today (citing the State Council on Higher Education for Virginia) out-of-state admissions have “hovered” around 33 percent for U-Va and have been as high as 38 percent for William & Mary!</p>
<p>[Loudoun</a> Supervisors push to limit out-of-state students in Virginia universities - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/loudoun-supervisors-push-to-limit-out-of-state-students-in-virginia-universities/2013/11/22/76748438-51f9-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html]Loudoun”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/loudoun-supervisors-push-to-limit-out-of-state-students-in-virginia-universities/2013/11/22/76748438-51f9-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html)</p>
<p>I read the same article. I’m not jumping to conclusions until I hear anything further on the matter either to confirm a new bill was passed or the schools are doing something different. </p>
<p>My read, for what it’s worth, is that the requirements that we’ve been told about, 2/3:1/3 is an overall ratio for the school, not an exact ratio that must be hit with each incoming class. With yield being an inexact science it’s hard to predict what the percentage will be when the class arrives in August. So one year it may be slightly different, but the student body as a whole meets the requirements. </p>
<p>Again, this is simply my theory and could be out in left field. As hot a topic as this is I do think had new legislation been passed we would have heard about it. </p>
<p>Curious about the stat cited about W&M I did see that the profile for the class of 2017 was 36% OOS. There was a notation that W&M maintains an overall instate enrollment of 65%, so right at the 2/3 mark. </p>
<p>My take away is as I noted above. With yield, summer melt, etc., each individual class may vary slightly from that ratio, but the overall student body meets the guidelines.</p>
<p>The ratio is part of the charter agreement that involved UVa, Tech, W&M, and VCU. SCHEV makes sure we are all compliant. 2-3 state legislators introduce a bill about the ratios every year (often excepting a few of the state schools). In my recollection, the bills always get sent to and fail in appropriations.</p>
<p>You can search for the bills and track the new ones on Richmond Sunlight. You can also see how bills get revised throughout the session on that site. The session begins January 9th and some bills have already been filed.</p>
<p>[Richmond</a> Sunlight » Tracking the Virginia General Assembly](<a href=“http://www.richmondsunlight.com/]Richmond”>http://www.richmondsunlight.com/)</p>
<p>More about the charter agreement: [Restructuring</a>, U.Va.](<a href=“Search | The University of Virginia”>Search | The University of Virginia)</p>
<p>Bills related to education that have been filed: <a href=“http://www.richmondsunlight.com/bills/tags/education/[/url]”>http://www.richmondsunlight.com/bills/tags/education/</a></p>
<p>Dean J, I would like to know if UVA does rolling admissions for EA applicants? Or do all EA applicants get a decision on the same day? Thank you.</p>
<p>All EA decisions are released at once. Our review has multiple rounds and rolling doesn’t really work for us.</p>