<p>Hi, I am beginning my junior of college, and would like to get an idea of how I might do in law school admissions. I have taken a diagnostic LSAT and gotten a 170: With studying, I should be able to get at least this high on the actual, I hope (it -was- taken in timed conditions). My converted GPA is about a 3.9 right now (3.89 counting college courses taken in high school). I am white. How might I do when applying to Michigan, or other T14's? Thanks for the help and advice.</p>
<p>Did u post this just to get a praise from other people, if you really have to ask then I don’t think u have the logical reasoning for T14 law school. Those scores are great for you can actually get them, but just remember when you apply to school on that level they look at what extra you have to offer, extra cir. Most of the students applying to those school will have your those stats.</p>
<p>Hahaha. Of course these scores are good, but I’m not interested in praise. And I asked because I don’t have a lot of extra curricular things, or anything else terribly impressive. Given that lack, I want to know how much weight these scores alone might carry. I have checked numerous sources, and have found information such as “50% chance” at Michigan Law. I want to know why there is a 50% chance: Is it because 50% of similarly qualified people will have extra things, or is it because it is a crapshoot?</p>
<p>Your post varies from suggesting that it’s obvious I would get in, to suggesting that my stats are typical, and that I need something more. I wish you wouldn’t be mean. I just want information, and I would be grateful to anyone who could inform me about my chances at Michigan, and what I might do to improve them. I’d also be interested in other T14’s, of course, but would prefer Michigan.</p>
<p>The reality is that chances are impossible until you have a real LSAT score in hand; the difference between 168, a 170, and a 172 is pretty large.</p>
<p>Could you tell me how dramatic the difference between results might be? I guess it’s a vague and useless question, because it’s pretty hard to answer. I suppose I have a fair shot, and the chances will be better with better LSAT scores. Is there any score that might nearly guarantee admission, or am I just doing a bunch of needless worrying that I should postpone until I apply? It’s just hard to get one’s mind off it all when there is such a long wait for anything to be set in stone.</p>
<p>There a 50% chance because like I said before most students that are applying will also have those scores. If you can get a 170 then you all you really have to work on is getting a really good recommendation letter that sets you apart from most students. You have a better shot at Mich. whose upper LSAT scores are 170 and GPA is 3.82. But if your looking at Yale, Standford, or Columbia 170 is around the lower LSAT scores accepted, that’s where extra-cirriculars whould really help you out. If you are just starting you Junior year then you still have some time to get involved and work on developing a relationship to get an outstanding recommendation letter</p>
<p>Cornell and Georgetown are almost guarantees. You should also have a decent shot at everywhere except HYSCCN.</p>
<p>I agree with the above post except that you are also very likely to get into NYU. They have a higher acceptance rate than many of the mid T14, and they also like 170/3.9 type numbers.</p>
<p>Thank you. I’ll look into those schools at which you’ve all said I stand I chance with the numbers given.</p>
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<p>With your stats, I see no reason not to apply to all T14 schools, and if you can get your LSAT up to 173, you would have a decent shot at every school.</p>
<p>Chances threads are worthless without a real LSAT score, especially if you’ve only taken one practice test.</p>
<p>Well, in terms of predicting actual chances, yes, since the LSAT score may prove inaccurate (although, chances could, in theory, be modified according to the chances of someone who got some given diagnostic score getting into some place). However, they can still be helpful for hypotheticals, and for allowing people to be informed when making test goals.</p>
<p>A 168 means you might not get into any T14 schools. A 170 should get you into three or four, I think. A 172 and you’re looking at approximately ten of them.</p>
<p>It’s a HUGE difference.</p>
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<p>Wouldn’t a 3.9 and a 168 be enough for Cornell at least?</p>
<p>I think a rejection would be a mild surprise, but not a huge one. The point is that this question is unanswerable without a real LSAT score, because even two points gives you an astronomical variation in this range.</p>
<p>A 167 and he probably ends up at UCLA. A 169 probably puts him at Cornell. A 170 probably gives him Duke. A 172 gives him a very good chance at Columbia, and a 173 might get him into Harvard. And these are all entirely possible scores at this point.</p>