18, Never Had a Real Boyfriend *please help!

<p>Getting a girlfriend/boyfriend is simple. Just open your mouth and talk. It doesn't take much. </p>

<p>Advice for the guys:
-Don't be the shy sensitive type. Women say they like a shy sensitive man, but their instincts want contrary. You have to be bold, brave, and outgoing. Women only wonder what's wrong with the wallflower posted up at the back of the party or dance.<br>
-Don't put women on a pedestal. Women are people, remember that. No matter how hot or awesome she is, until she's taken interest in you, she's just a woman. Don't pine for her; don't lose sleep thinking about her. When she actually likes you, then take interest and think about her constantly -- she'll think it's sweet.
-Take care of yourself. Shave. Workout. Wear decent clothes. Show that you actually care about how you look. If you can't take care of yourself, why should she think you'll take care of her?
-Don't lie. Old African wisdom (can't remember specifics): Lies will get you a wife, but they won't keep her.
-Make eye contact. This might be one of the most important parts of actually winning over a woman. If you can't look her in the eye she won't respect you. You'll appear weak, smaller, and scared. Moreover, keeping eye contact keeps you from checking out her...*ass*ets.</p>

<p>Women:</p>

<p>-Approach him first. I can't tell you how much I love having a woman approach me. If she's at least average looking I'm interested.
-Smile a lot.</p>

<p>Very informative post.</p>

<p>certainly u can find ordinary men easily...but there are very few intelligent men out there....the kinds of preoccupations many of the men have today...inane. for instance...why would a man try to develop a disgustingly over-developed upper bodies?? during puberty, a boy get's sufficient development of muscles and chests, etc. </p>

<p>but, even the few geniuses, truly accomplished ones are not all great. they may be stained with obsession with power or knowledge...</p>

<p>the rarest of the kinds of men are the innocent ones...that know absolutely nothing about the disgusting and perfidious dross that this world have in store....the ones that know nothing, but the pathetic childish pleasures of ornate splendour...and music...their skill soley confined altogether to an adeptness of an instrument.</p>

<p>I had my first gf at 18. It's not really a big deal. Just approach people/be approachable. Just make chit chat and talk. If things lead further, great. If not, no big deal.</p>

<p>many men aren't blessed with muscular upper bodies therefore they workout in order to gain some muscle and become more toned (not buff or body builder looking)...i'd say most women really like that</p>

<p>I was rejected for that reason alone. Generally, women arent worth it (who rejects someone by saying "you dont look like an abercrombie model"). Shallow itches...</p>

<p>start working out then...forget about the abercrombie model thing it is not only for looks...its not like you have to take off your shirt to meet girls...working out energizes you, makes you feel better, relieves a ton of stress, is a good way to meet people, and can boost confidence which translates to talking to girls...girls will notice you more...its worth a try and only helps...if you don't like it or find it useless then stop</p>

<p>If that's what it takes for a girl to want me, no thanks. I'm not huge or anything. I have pretty broad shoulders and kickass calves if I do say so. I dont want some shallow prissy idiot.</p>

<p>maybe you are too full of yourself with your kickass calves?</p>

<p>....no. What thedoes that mean?</p>

<p>btw, Chamillionaire is awful. Dude is as fake as they come.</p>

<p>i can care less about the artist's lifestyle...if i did then i would watch the crap they call mtv...i listen to the music its as simple as that</p>

<p>And his music is a pathetic representation of what is true hip hop.</p>

<p>Chamillionaire may be commerical, but at least he can rap without cursing like a mad man. Everyone can't be Immortal Technique or Talib Kweli.</p>

<p>I'm glad you knew who I was referring to as true, Alchemy (Alchemist?) ;)</p>

<p>how is it a pathetic representation? he might not be on the level of common, the roots, or black star but its still good...especially compared to most mainstream crap</p>

<p>Yeah, but that's not saying much.</p>

<p>yep, I have no sympathy for ugly women. None. Usually, they can change it if they want. A fat women can get skinnier. Even if she doesn't, some guys like fat chicks. </p>

<p>If your a guy, you have to jump through various invisible hoops. One hoop is your height; many women won't date a guy under 6'. The next is your looks-is your face pretty enough? Next is your build-women are just as picky as men over weight. Then, it's how much money you have. After that, it's your social status/network of friends. Thus women are much more superficial than men. Men find a large % of women attractive. Women find only a small minority of men attractive. Women will attempt to fight over this small minority of men, and then cry because they weren't chosen, saying "men are too superficial!".</p>

<p>Also, the whole working out thing is overrated. That's more to impress other guys, and yes, that's been documented by social psychologists. If your not getting girls, it's cuz of something you can't change. The only thing you CAN change is how much money you make, but hat won't get girls who actually like you for you. I'm planning on remaining celebate after my last failed relationship, and buying escorts! Unless you were given the right looks, you will never have the necessary leverage to have successful relationships.</p>

<p>wutang, you couldn't have put it any better. What you said is incredibly true, unfortunately. </p>

<p>IMO, when it comes to guys, girls pretty much know what they're looking for. There are no invisible hoops, as wutang pointed out. You just need to look pretty, which a large % of girls do. When it comes to girls, there are so many invisilbe hoops and as a guy you never know if a girl likes you.</p>

<p>I'm not the most handsome guy in the world. I'm barely above average, if that. I'm not big and strong. I'm not even six feet. I'm a scrawny average looking guy, but women are still attracted to me. So let me tell you as Joe Everyguy: wutangfinancial (love the Dave Chapelle reference) is absolutely incorrect. It's not hard to get a woman. Just talk to them. Smile, be confident. Act like you have something to offer them, even if you don't. Pretend that you're somebody important and worthy of them even if you aren't.</p>

<p>I'll give you guys the dirt -- women value men valued by other women. If you are so desperate for a girlfriend, go get a nice girl with low-self esteem and have a fling with her. She doesn't have to be a beauty queen. She just has to absolutely adore you. Other women will wonder what attracted her to you. Being taken actually makes you attractive to some women.</p>

<p>Be blunt. Let women know exactly what you want, and if you think she's even beginning to like you, do it. Don't ask to kiss her -- if you think she's responding to you just do it! Most men don't know how to ask to kiss a girl anyway. Be forceful but not overpowering. Be a man!</p>

<p>Stop caring if you get rejected. Like wutangfinancial said, there are lots of attractive women and few attractive men -- they have to settle with someone. Try to make that 'someone' you.</p>

<p>yeah, I know all of the above, and it's worked for me on occassion. I just broke up with a girl who was way out of my league. What I'm saying, to both guys and girls, is to get real. Hollywood gives us silly ideas. Real people don't look like models, and the ones that do, are usually spoiled children on the inside. I don't want to wine and dine a girl for her to like me; I don't want a trophy. I want a ride or die chick, so to speak.</p>