2 midshipmen assaulted; fellow Mid charged

<p>2</a> midshipmen assaulted; fellow Mid charged -- baltimoresun.com</p>

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A midshipman has been charged with assaulting two other Mids after a female student was punched in the face and her boyfriend was thrown into the water off City Dock, Annapolis police said.</p>

<p>No one was seriously injured. The scuffle Sunday night occurred amid the Naval Academy's sweeping effort to curb misconduct and severely cut back on free time.</p>

<p>It also took place on the weekend of the Navy football team's victory over Notre Dame, after which Vice Adm. Jeffrey Fowler, the academy superintendent, rewarded midshipmen by allowing plebes to leave campus Sunday and canceling classes for all students Monday.</p>

<p>The assault was one of a string of episodes that have brought the academy bruising exposure in recent years, including the deaths of three midshipmen in alcohol-related accidents, sexual-misconduct cases and news reports of a bawdy spring break cruise during which Mids were accused of raucous behavior while drinking.

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<p>Perhaps weekend liberty was not such a good idea. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>^^^^ are we to lock them up 24/7???</p>

<p>one could argue that more liberty might be the answer. Perhaps locking them all down IS the problem.</p>

<p>In any event, most unfortunate. "Bruising exposure" is right.</p>

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Perhaps locking them all down IS the problem.

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<p>Funny, but I don't recall any stories of assault aboard ships that deploy for months upon months, often with only a very few port visits totalling maybe a week or two.</p>

<p>The Ike recently deployed for what, 233 days? They got less than 15 of those in port. The crew didn't start feeding each other into the reduction gears over it.</p>

<p>No, what we have here (assuming the BS story isn't the usual BS BS) is a Mid who needs to be separated immediately. That's all.</p>

<p>When the facts come out, we'll see what happened and very possibly change our minds again.</p>

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one could argue that more liberty might be the answer. Perhaps locking them all down IS the problem.

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<p>I can see that point as well. </p>

<p>Perhaps being under Uncle Jeff's thumb for the last month or so was the perpetrator's excuse to act like an drunken idiot.</p>

<p>lets hope the action of 1 or a few, bad apples does not affect the whole
Z is right
Swift and deliberate discipline for the guilty party.
Dont hold it against the brigade.</p>

<p>I can't understand why an off-campus incident as small as this would ever be reported in the newspaper (I assume it was off-campus). At other schools something like this may not even be in the school paper. Where I live it takes a weapon involved to be reported.</p>

<p>Why would this be reported by the Sun? </p>

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<p>"I can't understand why an off-campus incident as small as this would ever be reported in the newspaper (I assume it was off-campus). At other schools something like this may not even be in the school paper. Where I live it takes a weapon involved to be reported."</p>

<p>Badley Olson |:(
always looks for ways to get negatives out. </p>

<p>happens everyweekend at Ohio State. Never makes the papers till someone get shot.</p>

<p>^^^^
A couple of possibilities come to mind:
- Anything to do with USNA is news
- Anything negative that mids do is news</p>

<p>Media publish things that celebrities do (actors, athletes, etc) simply because it'll attract viewers/readers. Sensationalism pays.</p>

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Badley Olson
always looks for ways to get negatives out.

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<p>Now, now!</p>

<p>Don't shoot the messenger! :rolleyes:</p>

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lets hope the action of 1 or a few, bad apples does not affect the whole
Z is right
Swift and deliberate discipline for the guilty party.
Dont hold it against the brigade.

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<p>lets hope you are both right!</p>

<p>The papers in the area (Washington Post, Baltimore Sun) have a way of almost always finding some way to spin anything about the Naval Academy in a negative way. They especially love anything that casts a negative light on the Brigade.</p>

<p>When I graduated all those many years ago, the most prominently displayed photo of our graduation in the Washington Post the next day was a picture of one of my classmates snoozing during the graduation speech. As a newspaper, they are a real class act.</p>

<p>For those of you unfamiliar with this treatment by the Balto-Wash press - get used to it - it isn't ever likely to change.</p>

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The papers in the area (Washington Post, Baltimore Sun) have a way of almost always finding some way to spin anything about the Naval Academy in a negative way. They especially love anything that casts a negative light on the Brigade.

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<p>The HELL you say! This is HERESY!</p>

<p>You know damned well that such noble organizations as the WP, NYT, BS, NPR, etc., etc., stop at NOTHING to get at the HARD FACTS and to present them FAIRLY and with ZERO bias!</p>

<p>No, seriously! :rolleyes:</p>

<p>To think that some people still actually believe what those rags put out. I don't even trust the advertisements! :mad:</p>

<p>If the Brigade of Midshipmen somehow managed to discover the cure for cancer, the headlines the next day would savage them for putting oncologists out of business (poor and minority oncologists being the hardest hit, of course). :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Question: was the boyfriend a midshipman? Seems like he was the one in that kiddie song that "just didn't belong here."</p>

<p>Sad, but you're right. If it happened at PSU, it would be NORMAL behavior, certainly not newsworthy.</p>

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Dont I know It!</p>

<p>Dateline: Jerusalem; 15 June 0032</p>

<p>Reports have the young scholar and teacher from Nazareth promoting alcoholism and excessive drinking. Eyewitnesses report that after a local wedding party ran out of wine. The self proclaimed "teacher" went to great lengths to get more alcohol for the party. After making sexist comments to his own mother "woman what would you have me do". It seems he produced wine from barrels of water. The question asked by some was if this was truly wine or was it a new designer drug.
Local officials refused comment at this time but government sources who asked not to be identified commented that "we will be keeping our eyes on this one we think he is up to no good."</p>

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<p>So you don't believe the incident took place, and the Baltimore Sun fabricated the Annapolis police report? :confused:</p>

<p>A USNA midshipman punching a female mid in the face and pushing another mid off the City Dock in the state capital would be news no matter who published the story.</p>

<p>It's news because more is expected from our future leaders at Annapolis, not because of any real or imagined vendetta by the reporter.</p>

<p>My guess is that Zaph was being sarcastic.</p>

<p>I certainly didn't mean to imply that this wasn't newsworthy, or that the behavior was appropriate. Clearly, it is not.</p>

<p>My point is that no matter what the news about USNA, there always seems to be some way to spin it with a negative cast in the WP or BS, and to ignore those events which might portray USNA in a positive light. The only exceptions I have noticed are perhaps those that have to do with the death of a Marine in Iraq or Afghanistan.</p>

<p>I could give you numerous examples to back up my assertion. I get the Post every day, and Great American has a superb knack for finding seemingly everything in the news related to USNA.</p>

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My guess is that Zaph was being sarcastic.

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<p>Don't be so sure.</p>

<p>Remember, these are the same papers that told us that 10,000 bodies were floating in the waters of New Orleans, and that a bunch of trapped miners had been rescued when they had in fact died, and that this was going to be the worst hurricane season in history, and that we were going to lose 50,000 dead invading Iraq, and....</p>

<p>Get what I mean?</p>

<p>As such, given their track record of completely botching the truth in order to sell their sensationalism or their agenda, I'll wait to see if the allegation that a Mid "punched a female Mid in the face and pushed another Mid off the City Dock" is actually confirmed before I join the usual anti-USNA lynch mob.</p>

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and Great American has a superb knack for finding seemingly everything in the news related to USNA.

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<p>He really does, doesn't he? :D</p>

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<p>Does that include the Annapolis Police Department?</p>

<p>Their case number is 07-006176</p>

<p>Daily</a> Police Activity Report</p>

<p>Do you think that the practice of giving Mids rewards for turning in other Mids played into this incident? It sounded like the two Mids who came to break-up the fight (which was already over) just really wanted to turn the incident into the Academy. My thought is that they probably thought the last Mid got an award and such grand public recognition from the Sup and the Dant for following and turning in a fellow Mid for drinking. Maybe they thought …here is my chance to get some recognition, too. I’m sure that the Mid who took the phone and pushed the other Mid in the water will be severely punished and probably kicked out of the Academy. Don’t get me wrong, he deserves to be punished. I just did not get the feeling the other two Mids really came to help. Oh and yes, I know about the Honor Code. </p>

<pre><code> I agree, The BS Newspaper seems to love to print anything negative about the Academy …. It is disgusting. I cancelled my subscription long ago.
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<p>Is it the wrong time to comment that diffusing the situation by telling a drunk mid back that they would report him to Main O may not have been the best course of action?</p>

<p><strong>disclaimer</strong> Before anyone jumps on my back, this post neither attempts to condone the actions of the drunk mid or place fault at the hands of the sober couple.</p>