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I had the NSF report right in front of me. There is a footnote annotation to the JHU ranking (a) "The JHU includes the APL with $709 Million in total R & D expenditures."
If you subtract that from the $1,499 Million reported JHU is not #1, or 2, or 3
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You are citing NSF statistics for Fiscal Year 2006. However, the research university rankings in the ASU report are based on the numbers for FY 2005, and so the FY 2005 numbers are the ones that I was referring to.</p>
<p>The ASU report ranks schools based on "Total Research Expenditures" and "Federal Research Expenditures". If we use the 2006 numbers, and exclude APL, then it appears that JHU would rank:</p>
<h1>6 in terms of "Total</a> Research Expenditures", and</h1>
<h1>2 (just barely) in terms of "Federal</a> research expenditures".</h1>
<p>So even if you completely discounted APL, JHU would still be highly ranked in terms of R&D expenditures, despite its comparatively small size.</p>
<p>^^ now let's look at its research expenditures *minus med school research<a href="and%20of%20course%20compare%20it%20to%20others%20without%20the%20med%20school%20research%20expenditures%20in%20the%20figures">/I</a>.</p>
<p>^ Yep - take out the medical component w/ regard to research and the list would look very different indeed.</p>
<p>Top 5 Without Medical and APL Lab Research $$$</p>
<p>JHU $308M
Wisconsin $541 M
UCLA $223 M
UMich $527 M
UWash $353 M</p>
<p>^ Barrons,
I don't think you calculated that correctly (But, I could be looking at different numbers than you).</p>
<p>Looking at the linked data you originally posted and starting on pg. 166, it lists total expenditures and medical expenditures for 2005, along with rank.</p>
<p>If you subtract the medical figure from the total, you get this:
UWisc = $477.5 - 142.9 = $334.6 M
UMich = $554.5 - 252.7 = $301.8 M
Berkeley = $290.9 - 0 = $290.9 M</p>
<p>UCLA = $469.9 - 302.7 = $167.2 M
JHU = $1,277.3 - 414.5 - 709 (for APL - est. not same year) = $153.8 M</p>