<p>Get into the best school you can afford and do the best you can there. That really is the most important thing. This year Morgan Stanley did not even open the resumes of students whose colleges they did not visit. (and for example they did not visit places like Vandy for front office)
In terms of tiers, all Ivys plus Stamford, Mit Duke Williams Amherst and a few others are in tier one, with H Y and P being top, followed by Wharton. Tier two would be Johns Hopkins Gtown UVA Chicago Wash Lee NYUStern and a few other top LACS . Past that it doesnt really matter.</p>
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No. IBs do not recruit at Johns Hopkins. The best way to find out is to go to school’s career website to see which firms recruit at that school.</p>
<p>Are you sure not a single IB recruits at JHU oldfort? This doesn’t surprise given the school’s STEM slant and almost wholly premed focused student body but it is a top 15 school after all.</p>
<p>Here’s my experience having worked as a summer analyst at a Bulge Bracket bank with regards to school representation…</p>
<p>Tier 1: Harvard and Wharton
Tier 2: Princeton and Stanford
Tier 3: Columbia, Cornell AEM, Dartmouth, Duke, Williams, and Yale
Tier 4: Berkeley Haas, Brown, Georgetown McDonough/School of Foreign Service, Michigan Ross, Cornell, Indiana Kelley (surprise!), Penn CAS, NYU Stern, UVA McIntire, Amherst, Middlebury, and MIT
Tier 5: Emory Goizueta, USC Marshall, Vanderbilt, Boston College Carroll SOM, Notre Dame Mendoza, CMU Tepper, WUSTL Olin, UNC Kenan-Flagler, Pomona, UCLA, and Claremont McKenna
Tier 6: JHU, Rice, CalTech, UMich, UNC, UVA, and Notre Dame</p>
<p>I separated the undergraduate business school at certain universities from the rest of student body to denote the difference in placement. This is based on my observations and I tried to calibrate for the interest level in finance amongst the student body weighed against the absolute amount of recruiting opportunities at the BBs present.</p>
<p>Yest, I am pretty certain. It is not to say there are no student from JHU who work in IBs, but most of them get their jobs through personal connections. Not that many IBs recruit at Chicago either. </p>
<p>IBs have a list of target schools and often it has nothing to do with a school ranking. Many students from Trinity C and Colgate go into finance, they do not rank as high as other LACs.</p>
<p>AEM students do not have higher chance of getting into IB than students from other Cornell schools. Many students from Hotel, engineering, A&S, IRL go into finance. All students from Cornell are eligible to interview with IBs that recruit on campus.</p>
<p>Just a side note, in my daughter’s class, there is not one person from Stanford or Williams. It is a BB firm.</p>
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<p>Definitely an important thing to note, as not all schools have an ivy-name brand and still manage to land IBD and S&T roles despite competing against “Whartonites”.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, how many of the Kelley kids you met were from the IBD workshop?</p>
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<p>What do you attribute UNC Kenan-Flagler & CMU Tepper’s poorer ranking compared to Indiana Kelley and only being on par with schools like Pomona, Clarement (Liberal Arts colleges all the way on the West Coast)? Do the kids there generally not want IB?</p>
<p>Also, surprising that Texas McCombs is non-target</p>
<p>@oldfort - trinity and esp. colgate were the “some other top Lacs” that I referred to, but was too lazy to type. JHU gets recruiters on campus as much as Gtown does, granted from empirical evidence.
@hookemhorns - UVA at tier 6? Not in your wildest dreams. But actually there is no tier 6 anyway.
@everyone - please do not make a mistake of thinking that an undergrad business school, other than Wharton and possibly Stern due to its being in the back yard, will give you a leg up on wall street.</p>
<p>That’s not my ranking…</p>
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<p>UVA NON-McIntire is tier 6. </p>
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<p>I don’t think anyone was intimating at that.</p>
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<p>Just going out on a limb here, but possibly because he/she’s posts are driven more by some sort of bizarre rankings fetish than actual substance.
These “rankings” appear to be based 50% on what random people on WSO say and 50% based off of the raw number of people in each school placed in BOA’s NY 2010 SA class.</p>
<p>Also, for what it’s worth, I’m pretty sure the exact same user ranked Mccombs on par with Yale in a previous post. </p>
<p>On a more serious note, almost all of these schools listed have the potential to get you to where you want to be. If you’re seriously trying to compare the differences in placement between Princeton and Harvard, you’ve completely missed the point. At this level, where you go should be much more based off of fit than anything else.</p>
<p>Whoa whoa how is Texas McCombs not even apart of the list? At best it should be Tier 5 for IB right?</p>
<p>I think UIUC should definitely be in atleast Tier 5. It is a semi-target for bulge brackets.</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m not sure why Texas keeps getting neglected. While it’s primarily a target for southern banks and Oil + Gas finance, they definitely have kids in FO positions on the street.</p>
<p>Thank you! You guys were scaring me. I go to Texas and they’ve been telling me it’s a great school for all business fields, especially IB… It’s like everyone is just ignoring Mccombs. :(</p>
<p>I’m sorry guys; McCombs is in Tier 5. If you manage to get into BHP within Plan II, I would bump your status up to Tier 4.</p>
<p>McComb’s has a great southern reputation and places very heavily into those regional offices of the IBs. The kids in BHP have a much better shot at ending up on the Street.
[BHP</a> Careers](<a href=“http://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/BHP/Your-Career.aspx]BHP”>Internships & Careers | CBHP | McCombs School of Business)
Lower tier my ass.</p>
<p>For the poster earlier asking CMU Tepper, Tepper does very well in S&T and tech, notsomuch IB. If we are strictly speaking about LBOs, M&A, etc then Tepper does belong in a lower tier.</p>
<p>There aren’t tiers of schools… Target, semi-target, non-target. Wall Street Oasis has billions of posts under this. Use a search function… Stanford kids don’t usually go to Wall Street anyway so there are less recruiters. G-Town sends more kids on average than most others even though its not as well known to be a feeder. Google this.</p>
<p>CC is the only place where I see schools broken up into tiers. I’ve heard of firms being put into tiers but never schools. From my understanding they either recruit or they dont.</p>
<p>Yeah this tier thing is unreal bs. If a BB firm recruits at your school, you have as good a shot as anyone going to a school where they recruit. I go to Ross, we place extremely well into Goldman, JP, Citi, MS, CS, etc. Once you get an interview it’s all about knowing the technical questions and personal fit.</p>
<p>But I’ve heard Texas McCombs called semi-target and Vanderbilt called semi-target. Based on my own experience about 2 BB’s actually do on-campus interviews at Vanderbilt and absolutely 0 of the elite boutiques; they get about 6/9 BB firms resume dropping and fewer for full-time/senior year. Whereas all the top boutiques and next to all the BB (Houston, and some NY) goes on-campus to McCombs…in addition to BMO, RBC, RBS, Gleacher, etc.</p>