2013-2014 Applicants and their parents.....

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<p>I am sure my DD would have been thrilled to have only car trips, no flights, but in our region, there is one med school for multiple states and very few states in the west are willing to offer admissions to OOS kids. If one is from CA the state schools are so competitive, some of the highest average numbers in the country, so those CA kids have to go far & wide. You are lucky that you have so many med schools, and residencies back east, but your DDs tactics, while admirable, don’t work for people in the west.</p>

<p>UG…I know it’s easier said than done; however, I would encourage you not to worry. Assuming your son applied widely, I know he’ll be getting good news by the end of the cycle. Why do I think this? Well, if he’s received interviews at schools that will release decisions in March, than I’m relatively confident his stats are stellar. If you look at the “other” site under “What are My Chances” then “Success Rate of Those Who Applied with Your GPA and MCAT” you’ll most likely find that statistically, his chances of NOT getting in somewhere are slim. When people talk about these 4.0/36+ kids who don’t get in anywhere, I think the reasons are generally two fold:</p>

<p>A) They didn’t apply broadly and only applied to top schools
B) Their ECs/research/interview/etc. was deficient in some way</p>

<p>At any rate, I bet you’ll be celebrating quite soon, and I for one, will be shouting “Hooray” on your behalf. ;)</p>

<p>UG- when DD applied, it was rough to read all the Oct 15/16 reports of admissions, but she had not been applying to schools that did that, hers were mainly March notification schools, She was lucky #1` let her in early, but they generally admit 10% early, deny 10% right away and do the rest in the spring, so she could easily have been waiting until March.</p>

<p>Try not to feel that he is lagging behind, it may just be his list of schools.</p>

<p>There’s a thread over on SDN on which current med students tell when they were accepted. For at least half of those posting–they hadn’t even been invited to interview at the school they currently attend by this time in the cycle. </p>

<p>You gotta remember, as Yogi Berra so famously remarked-- it ain’t over 'til it’s over.</p>

<p>Update: new interview invite yesterday from an instate school which had been silent since the secondary was submitted last summer. You never know…</p>

<p>Awesome news, UrbanGardner! Fingers crossed!</p>

<p>UG - what percent students are in state? If it exceeds 70 percent, this needs to be the focus.</p>

<p>Congrats UG!! Prime example that it’s not over until its over". More to come your kiddos way…</p>

<p>Great news, UG. </p>

<p>We’ll have to have an online virtual party on May 15. BYOB, ha.</p>

<p>Thanks, jc, learning & TatinG!</p>

<p>Texaspg: well over 70% of matriculants are instate, and over 80% of instate interviewees are eventually accepted. We are cautiously optimistic, and DS will certainly be doing his homework in advance of this interview.</p>

<p>We bottle our own wine, so will certainly supply a case for the May 15 shindig!</p>

<p>UG - My advise based on how I see high stat kids think is the following: Prepare like it is your only choice although based on your stats, the school might be far below your lizzyM score. If you show serious interest you will get admitted because they can’t deny a high stat kid an admission in state (as you know JC’s kid got accepted in everyone of them). </p>

<p>As long as he makes sure to drop strong hints about coming if admitted, he should get in. Any kind of vibe saying this is my second or third choice will be detrimental.</p>

<p>UG, Congrats for the good news. For med school applications, it is hard to know for sure how each individual school would respond, thus the need for applying to many schools.</p>

<p>Our in-state schools favor IS applicants a lot. This is well known. But I think that because the class size is larger (220+?), the applicants could possibly get in mostly due to his high stats.</p>

<p>Also, there will be a lot of shuffling of admitted/matriculants students in the late spring - a lot more students are involved in terms of percentage than the students in the college application cycle.</p>

<p>Texas: That might be true for other states, but the facts in California are this: Only 15% of California applicants who are accepted somewhere (so eliminating those who just aren’t accepted period) are accepted to a California school. 85% of our best and brightest must go out of state. </p>

<p>My take is that UCSF, UCLA, UCSD are all top 20 schools and want to have a nationwide applicant pool from which to choose.</p>

<p>I believe the number of students staying in Cal is 37% of all admitted med students and it is a AAMC chart that is floating around on CC on one of the threads.</p>

<p>I don’t know if UG is from Cal but “over 80% of instate interviewees are eventually accepted” seems very promising and those are odds I would take on any given day.</p>

<p>Based on this chart large majorities of attendees at Cal public schools seem to be in state.</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/161128/data/table1.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/161128/data/table1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>percentage IN OOS
Loma Linda 40.5 59.5
Southern Cal-Keck 74.7 25.3
Stanford 48.8 51.2
UC Davis 99.0 1.0
UC Irvine 94.2 5.8
UC San Diego 85.6 14.4
UC San Francisco 78.8 21.2
UCLA Drew 87.5 12.5
UCLA-Geffen2 92.6 7.4 </p>

<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/321466/data/2012factstable5.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/321466/data/2012factstable5.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>California 5,326 841 15.8 1,427 26.8 3,058 57.4</p>

<p>I think you are right about only 15.8% being admitted in state but only 26.8% get admitted outside the state and 57.4% don’t get in anywhere.</p>

<p>just want to reiterate mcat’s point about WL movement. For example, my undergrad class has less than 50 people from the wait list (and probably closer to 20) out of 1400 students (~1.5-3.5%), my med school class was probably ~20-25% WL acceptances.</p>

<p>Just got an acceptance at a dream school! I was hesitant to apply to this school because it is a huge reach and I actually added it in August after I submitted my primary in June. This just shows you that you have to try and see! Now I am excited for second look.</p>

<p>Congrats Pinkstuffz!</p>

<p>And big congrats UG!!</p>

<p>Congrats Pinkstuffz! As your “virtual mom” may I say how very proud I am of you! I know your folks must be thrilled as well.</p>

<p>UG…Hang tight…that acceptance(s) are around the corner. He may have a great Christmas present come his way!</p>

<p>D is currently struggling with her decision. I feel certain that she will opt to go in state simply because of cost; however, she’s kept her file open at the schools she’s interviewed at in the rare event they might offer merit. (I doubt, though, even if it does materialize it’ll come anywhere close to the value of the instate schools.) She is in the process of making an extensive pro/con list. They’re all great, and she can’t go wrong with any one of them. Fortunately, she has almost two months to make a decision.</p>