These are the raw admisson rates for Engineering and CS combined.
Data is from the ASEE provided by the colleges.
NOTE: Harvard provided no data. Stanford only provided overall admission stats.
<h1>University Eng&CS Admit Rate (Yield)</h1>
Stanford 5 80.4
Columbia 6.2 59.9
Princeton 6.7 58.1
Yale 6.9 59.8
MIT 7.2 75.6
Penn 7.4 60.1
Caltech 7.7 41.4
Duke 8.2 46.6
Northwestern 8.7 52.2
CMU 12.3 34.8
Cornell 12.3 53.6
UCB 12.5 49.9
UCLA 12.6 26
JHU 12.7 37.7
Harvey Mudd 15.4 35.8
Georgia Tech 18.6 40.8
Michigan 20.6 43.6
Texas 23.1 46
Maryland 26.9 30.3
UVA 27 33.9
UCSD 27 21.2
Northeastern 32.7 21.8
CWRU 33.1 15.6
Minnesota 33.7 27.4
RPI 42.1 20.5
UIUC 42.9 16.7
Ohio state 43.3 32.9
Stevens 43.9 19.9
Purdue 44.6 24.1
Wisconsin 47 32.9
WPI 48.4 23.1
NC State 52.5 35
Penn State 55 26
Colorado Mines 55.7 19.2
Pittsburgh 55.8 22.5
Washington 58.6 32.4
UTD 58.8 40.8
Virginia Tech 72.8 33.2
ASU 72.9 42.6
Texas AM 84.1 44.4
Engineering departments have different enrollment sizes.
Some have 500, others 10000. The average enrollment size of the above table was ~5000 students.
This table reflects the effective admission rate for 5000 Engineering & CS students.
<h1>University Eng&CS Admit Rate (5000)</h1>
Stanford 7.3
Georgia Tech 8.6
UCB 12.1
MIT 14.7
Michigan 15.9
Texas 16.2
Cornell 16.6
UCLA 17.3
Columbia 18.5
Penn 19.1
Maryland 21.2
Purdue 22
UIUC 23
UCSD 23.1
Princeton 23.3
Northwestern 23.7
CMU 24.8
Duke 25.6
Ohio state 28.5
Northeastern 32.4
Penn State 33.2
JHU 35
ASU 35.4
Texas AM 38.6
NC State 40.1
Minnesota 40.1
UVA 42.1
Wisconsin 42.3
Virginia Tech 45.7
RPI 47
Washington 52.6
Colorado Mines 61.7
WPI 67.5
UTD 68.8
Yale 71.6
Pittsburgh 85.1
Caltech 87.9
Stevens 92.7
CWRU 101
Harvey Mudd 134.4
how is rate over a 100, if it’s a percentage. What does 87.9 mean wrt Cal Tech, their admit rate if they expanded their class size to 5000? That seems a little odd.
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Interesting to see that Northeastern and CWRU have higher acceptance rates for engineering/CS than for the school generally given their STEM strength.
Seconding that the second set of data doesn’t seem very useful.
Edit: Found the data source
@PengsPhils the schools provided the data to ASEE about how many engineering applications they received and how many offers they sent out. If they made a mistake with this data that’s on them. If I made a mistake dividing the numbers I’ll be happy fix it.
The table shows combined eng&cs because many schools include cs in engineering. Some schools have CS departments outside of engineering and do not include those application numbers.
I could extrapolate a CS only admission rate but this is good enough for now.
@theloniusmonk they simply don’t receive that many applications.
It’s easy to have a low admit rate when you restrict the enrollment.
But more interestingly is what happens to admit rates when schools restrict/grow their enrollment to the size of Berkeley.
UCB 12 → 12
Texas 23 → 16
Cornell 12 → 16
UCLA 12 → 17
ASU 72 → 35
It’s a fair way of comparing them. Basically it shows Texas engineering student body is on par with Cornell if they would not let as many in.
The reason some schools drop so much is because they receive just as many or more applications as UCB. However their enrollment size is larger.
@greymeer - It appears that your list is extracted from another source. What method/commands did you use to
import the data into your post ??? (I have been looking for an efficient way to transfer information from spreadsheets to CC posts and not found anything)
Thanks
You can’t use acceptance rate for engineering to compare student bodies. The caliber of kids applying to Cal Tech is a lot different that those apply to most other schools. There about 3-400 STEM students that are the gold medalists, Intel winners that apply to 4-5 schools - MIT, Stanford, Harvard, Cal Tech, Berkeley, maybe Princeton, Yale. They’re not applying to any school ED because they know they’ll get into one of those EA/SCEA schools. The kids that apply ED for engineering cannot compete with these kids, and they know it, that’s why they apply ED.
Admit rates are meaningless unless you know the quality of the applicants to each school. Yields also can’t be compared across schools with different early admission programs (EA vs SCEA vs ED).
@1NJParent Admission rates are meaningless…?.. News to me.
There is a whole CC forum dedicated to admissions and acceptance rates. This is simply the admit rates of the engineering departments. It’s useful to people applying who want to guesstimate their chances.
@Greymeer You omitted the part of my quote that says “…unless you know the quality of the applicants to each school”. Sure, there’re threads on CC that discuss these numbers ad nauseam. I only wanted to point out that these numbers by themselves aren’t comparable unless colleges also tell you in details the profiles of their applicants. Without that knowledge, you really can’t say a college with higher admit rate is less selective and/or an applicant is more likely to be admitted.
@Mastadon " It appears that your list is extracted from another source. What method/commands did you use to…"
It’s there. I used excel there is no import tool unless you want to pay them.
It’s the ASEE profiles for each school… Look at “new applicants”… you also need to look at “enrollments by class”. Some schools do not include CS in their engineering application stats. Like Texas. UCB includes CS. Michigan includes some but not all. For those schools I used the “enrollments by class” to figure out who does and who doesn’t (because it is noted in that table). I include the CS applications and offers for schools that left out CS.
Texas’s engineering rate is 26 but with CS it’s 23. Purdue went 47 to 44.
As @1NJParent said, applicant and admit strength matter. A low admission rate from a large, but relatively weak, applicant pool does not mean that the college is highly selective.
An admit rate of (for example) 15% does not mean that your personal chance of admission is 15%.
Are you saying Cal Tech is easier to get into than what the numbers say? You don’t need a 1550/35/800 on the subject test to get in? You can get in with a 1300/28/650 on the subject tests? And what does the 101 mean for CWRU?
@theloniusmonk “You can’t use acceptance rate for engineering to compare student bodies.”
Sure you can. Choose a school look up there SAT score ranges for their engineering departments. Look at the percentiles and how large the departments are. The sat scores scale with size and acceptance rates. GT could easily fill UCBs engineering dept with the same students.
“There about 3-400 STEM students that are the gold medalists, Intel winners…”
Sure, however a .01 percent case super student is not a rule for the vast majority of the student body.
anecdotal - Caltech enrolls 200 1560 avg… Texas CS dept enrolled 70 Turing scholars with 1560 avg SAT. That is just CS honors that doesn’t include 1900 Engineering and regular CS students. UT probably has 300 in that 1560 range.
Again, SAT scores at that level aren’t meaningfully discriminating. They are necessary but totally insufficient to thrive (or even survive) in an environment like the one at Caltech.
@greymeer - Sorry I was not clear - I meant importing information into the editor used to create CC posts. It appears that the font in your post is not the standard font for CC posts, so I was hoping that you had a way to “cut” information from another source and “paste” it into a CC post while preserving the the formatting.
Thanks
Use
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around the text that you want to be monospaced and preformatted.
How is the number for Stanford arrived at? All students are admitted as undeclared. So is it just the overall admit rate and yield?
Stanford does not submit admissions data to the ASEE because it does not have separate admissions.
Likewise for Harvard.
Here is the info from the database (thanks to @ucbalumnus )
Stanford University - 2016
Undergraduate
New Applicants
New Undergraduate Applicants
A. Number of undergraduate applicants to the engineering college: 0
B. Of those in (A), how many were offered admission? 0
C. Of those in (B), how many were enrolled in the fall? 0
Percentage of entering students (excluding transfer students) ranked in the top quarter (25%) of their high schools: 0%
Note: Students are admitted to Stanford University without regard to their eventual major. All undergraduates are eligible to enroll in any major, which they do after the end of their sophomore year.
Newly Enrolled Test Scores
Scores Reflect 75th to 25th percentile
SAT 75th 25th
Math Range: 0 0
Reading Range: 0 0
Writing Range: 0 0
Combined Range: 0 0
ACT 75th 25th
Math Range: 0 0
Composite Range: 0 0
http://profiles.asee.org/profiles/7255/screen/19?school_name=