<p>Your stats would look good if you weren’t a Chinese female applicant (no offense). HYPSM schools probably see identical or near identical application from others just like yourself.
Stat wise, you look good enough, but its up to them.</p>
<p>MrsH, You are certainly qualified to get into HYPSM applicant pool. HYPSM painfully rejects lots of highly qualified applicants every year.
There are some unknown factors (coke formula) that play a role in the admission process.
It depends on the applicant pool of that year and how they are building the class.
When you hear HYPSM is rejecting val/sal, do not be under the impression that val/sal accomplishment is detrimental to HYPSM admissions but the fact is that some spark is missing in those guys for those elite schools.</p>
<p>theRADtomato47 listed a set of best colleges so research those from your view point.</p>
<p>Hope you will land in East or West coast by next year.</p>
<p>Could you post your stats? >_></p>
<p>Mrs.H, for your information, the difference between a 2400 one sitting and a 2400 superscored is so small that it is basically negligible. the difference between 2370 and 2400 is negligible. etc.
with almost spotless scores and “loads” of leadership positions, you have the best possible chance at any of these schools as you possibly can. the whole hype about asian female never admitted to top schools is seriously overrated. </p>
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<p>for intentionally posing as an identity of which you’re not in actual life for the sake of soliciting attention on the internet.</p>
<p>HazelCapri, it’s tough to be sure when we’ve got a ■■■■■ and when we have a legitimate new poster. I saw one kid post “what are my chances?” with such remarkable stats and ECs that a lot of folks thought he was a ■■■■■. Yet he was in my area and posted several very specific awards so I googled him and finally tied the cross-awards to a real individual (and his mother had a blog where she had posted videos of some of his music performances). I was trying to prove this poster was a fake, yet this kid turned out to be the real deal, brilliant and multi-talented and yet still unsure of his chances at HYPSM. </p>
<p>Since then, I decided not too worry too much about ■■■■■■ if they ask legitimate questions that might also be on the minds of silent unregistered readers who also read these boards looking for answers.</p>
<p>"Are my chances really bad now? You guys make it sound like I’m screwed already. I don’t want to live being a failure the rest of my life… " </p>
<p>If you think going to a non-Ivy makes you a failure in life, then you will be a failure in life, even if you get into a HYPS< and graduate val.</p>
<p>@Glido @Bobby1234 AMEN!
Extracurricular fail MrsHarvard the admissions are going to see your officer positions as shallow and not areas of leadership. They don’t care if your president of a club that meets once a month. They want to see that you can lead others not organize monthly tea and cookie gatherings. Have you not seen the threads for results of HYPMS? If you haven’t I’ll sum it up for you: all those who relied on scores and being valedictorian to get in got rejected! (Maybe not all but a vast majority)</p>
<p>MrsHarvard - If you share your likely major, we can collectively generate a list of schools that will delver an education just as good as HPYSM. For example, if you were to say “Computer Science”, I could rattle off 6 state schools (and a number of privates) that would crush HPY. Other posters could do the same for fields that they know.</p>
<p>But if the goal is pure prestige, then we probably can’t help, because those are in fact the best choices.</p>
<p>I agree with HazelCapri. MrsHarvard I hope you are a ■■■■■.</p>
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<p>That was bad advice, too.</p>
<p>Look, MsHarvard: This isn’t China. You have got to stop thinking that it is. </p>
<p>You have got to stop thinking that there are only 5 universities (HYPSM) that are worth going to and that the rest are awful, terrible and the marks of a failure. Guess what? There are tons of top universities and LAC’s in America, all of them offer tons of wonderful opportunities. More than any one person could possibly take advantage of.</p>
<p>I don’t know who has poisoned your mind such that you really think that the sun rises and sets on HYPSM, but they aren’t doing you any favors. They are WRONG.</p>
<p>And, even the concept that you are asking “do my stats guarantee me into these schools?” tells me that you think it’s just like Chinese admissions. No stats, even 2400 and 4.0 GPA’s, guarantee you into ANY place. Because this isn’t China. Schools are looking to build a class of people who interest them, not merely those with the tippy-top scores. The very fact that in your advice above, you seem to think that adcoms would distinguish between a 2400 single-sitting and a 2400 super-score tells me that you haven’t internalized at all what American college admissions is like. You seem to think that the adcoms are scrutinizing scores at that level. They aren’t. At a certain level, it’s whether you can get the work done, and whether that is 2300, 2350, 2400 super score or 2400 single sitting is completely immaterial.</p>
<p>This is a different world from the Chinese one. Please stop applying Chinese ways of thinking to American college admissions. It will only result in heartache – because you think that there are only certain colleges worth going to, AND because you think that it’s a numbers / stats game.</p>
<p>Sorry to be harsh, but I’m so tired of these assumptions.</p>
<p>OP is learning more than she expected to in this thread (hopefully)!</p>
<p>Lol, her username is"MrsHarvard." To be blunt, you are not going to get in Harvard. Unless you write a 1 in a million essay, you really have no shot because you don’t have a hook (awards, etc). Keep in mind that there are many times the students getting rejected who have 800 SAT iis and 2300 + SAT’s.</p>
<p>And MIT and Caltech, I would say you have an even worse shot. Sure, you got an 800 on math ii and chemistry, but for those schools, you need to have awards in math and science. Test scores simply prove you’re qualified and you know the material. Awards like AMC, AIME, USAMO, MOP, Intel, Siemens, RSI, Telluride, they show the true mindset of applicants and is a better measure of their math and science ability than the SAT and even math ii. </p>
<p>Yale, Stanford, and Princeton are just as bad, if not worst. Unless you have some kind of hook that separates you from applicants, than you have no shot. Stats are most important for schools like SUNY Binghamton and other schools of that caliber. </p>
<p>Go to the HYPMS threads and look at the stats of students who got accepted and compare them to yours. I think you’ll learn something. You should definitely aim lower.</p>
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<p>Disagree with that statement. The ‘Mrs.’ infers xx chromosomes, which is an auto boost at the tech schools.</p>
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<p>Not everyone knows about these competitions or has access to them. Such students are not necessary less brilliant, just poorer, more isolated or less connected.</p>
<p>^everyone on the honor roll at my school takes the AMC, so not qualifying to USAMO means you are less intelligent.</p>
<p>My son is on math team, has won 5 ribbons in 5 outings and has never taken an AMC test. We have some other math organization here in Chicago. AMC is not universal.</p>
<p>"This isn’t China. …in America… Chinese admissions…this isn’t China…what American college admissions …This is a different world from the Chinese one. Please stop applying Chinese ways of thinking to American college admissions '. </p>
<p>Pizzagirl, your post is offensive to me. if you want condemn China or the “Chinese way”, there are plenty of other places for you. This girl simply stated that she is Chinese. There are millions of Chinese AMERICANS in this country, including many on this board; for all we know, Mrsharvard may well be one of them. You think every Chinese is a foreigner, and they have no idea about your America? and if they show any anxiety about colleges application, it must be because of their “Chinese way”? You have been on this board for a long time, have you ever read similarly insecure posts of 16 yo in every ethnic background? Please!!</p>
<p>Some schools are reach schools for everyone, simply because their acceptance rates are so low. Nobody can offer you realistic odds of acceptance at the schools you mention, other than to say that there are no guarantees at any of them.</p>
<p>The good news is that there are lots of other great schools that your stats would give you good odds at acceptance for. So when you pick the set of schools that you apply to, pick schools over a range of selectivity levels. With your stats, there are no schools that would be considered above your range to be worth applying to, so by all means, apply to any/all of your dream schools. But don’t think that you would be a failure if you don’t get accepted to any of them, e.g. if you end up at Chicago or Cornell instead of Harvard. Also, make use of Early Action if you can - an early admission at a good school, should go a long way into making you more comfortable during the difficult admissions season. (Some top EA schools include MIT, U. Chicago, Georgetown, and Notre Dame.)</p>
<p>cortana, what you said was the worst, most misinformed advice I’ve ever encountered on CC. “You’re not going to get in Harvard unless you write a 1 in a million essay”, “you really have no shot because you don’t have a hook”, and “you need to have awards in math and science” to be considered for Caltech and MIT? What? The fact that the OP stopped posting shows that she must fairly intelligent, IMO. At least I wouldn’t have to worry about her or anyone Asian taking you seriously.</p>
<p>I’ve never heard of AIME, USAMO, Intel, Siemens, MOP, RSI, and Telluride until I came to CC. GreedisGood, everyone at your school on the honor roll may have qualified for AMC, but at the high school I know, only very selected few is given the opportunity. </p>
<p>horsham, I agree. If you want to hear more about what Pizzagirl and some many others have to say about Chinese American students, visit the thread about the Battle Hymn of Tiger Mother thread in the parents’ forum.</p>
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<p>Ugh, you hit one of my biggest pet peeves. 
That’s implies, not infers.</p>