<p>Is it true that if you know one of the top 10 most languages in need(Russian,Arabic etc...)and you apply to CIA or FBI(especially CIA),they will take you almost right away?Of course if you meet all other requirements but in total language is a very huge plus....right?</p>
<p>bump…</p>
<p>yea you need to be FLUENT in 1 other language minimum. the CIA especially LOVES language specialists. </p>
<p>you should be fluent in one and conversational in another</p>
<p>I have another very important question.It says on their website that you need to have 1000 on math/critical read. SAT and 500 on writing.Lets say their aplicant has 1000+ on math and crit. read. but 490 on writing AND he/she knows additional 2 languages(one of which is critical like chinese,arabic,russian etc)can CIA overlook those 10 points?</p>
<p>The bare minimums are bare minimums. Most accepted applicants will have well above those scores.</p>
<p>I’d be fairly surprised if someone who scores a 490 on the writing section of their own language would become fluent in Russian, Arabic, or mandarin. Those are very difficult languages and if you haven’t gained a strong enough understanding of English after high school to score above a 490 you will have a very tough time becoming fluent in those languages.</p>
<p>well the sat is for high school students anyway right?What about college students?Do they still have to submit their SAT even after going to college for 1-3 years?</p>
<p>yea if you only have a 490 on writing, chances are there will be thousands of people with much higher writing scores no offense</p>
<p>but i do think its relatively odd for the CIA to ask for college entrance exam scores</p>
<h2>Is it true that if you know one of the top 10 most languages in need(Russian,Arabic etc…)and you apply to CIA or FBI(especially CIA),they will take you almost right away?~ Future13</h2>
<p>No, that’s not true.</p>
<p>It’s a skill that can qualify you to apply, or perhaps make you competitive, that’s all. Is it a good or even “great” skill? Yes, definitly! But it’s not ticket to the show.</p>
<p>Remember, we have been in two wars for nearing 10 years. During that entire time our military and government agencies have been recruiting and training linguists, who then have direct field experience.</p>
<p>Once our military linguists fullfill their contract, they can (and do) very easily take that skill to a government agency, and they would be much more competitive than a mere college student who studied it. </p>
<p>Getting a contractor job would be easier.</p>
<p>Secondly, there is no way to be “hired right away.” Each agency has an inefficient and disorganized hiring system (all of government) that requires long background investigations, medical exams, psych exams, physical exams, panel interviews, questionaires, and polygraph exams. These exams are drawn out by months at times and it’s not uncommon at all to go 6-8 months withouth ever hearing back from the agency, you just get put in limbo.</p>
<p>It’s very typical for the process to take 18 months, but I know people that waited 3 years for the whole process, in various agencies.</p>
<p>If you really want to learn a language and use it in a job, join the military as a linguist. That way you can be certain that you will be given the proper training and then be able to go out and directly apply it. </p>
<p>Think about, you spend all that time learning a language (many years to become fluent with intense study), then you don’t get hired by the agency you want (which you probably won’t, not as a fresh college grad), so what do you do then? You just invested all that time into a skill you’re not using.</p>
<p>Don’t buy into what all the dumb TV shows protray about the FBI/CIA, they are all full of crap. If you want to get in the FBI, become an attorney or accountant - that’s who they hire the most. Of just become a cop/trooper and get some detective experience or specialized units under your belt.</p>
<p>The CIA is much trickier, they (FBI included), hire based on current needs. What is needed today might not be needed tomorrow, so you could invest lots of time into something that they no longer need.</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying but if not government then what else can you do with a 2nd language?Except for becoming a teacher</p>
<p>You can be proud of yourself? A 2nd language is not a career-maker.</p>
<p>it can be if its an exotic one or one with pressing needs…</p>
<p>how many college students are fluent in albanian for example</p>
<p>^^^^ That doesn’t mean companies need people to speak the language.</p>
<p>If you are referring to government, they can just take native speakers - who are better. We have all sorts of European allies who can provide translation in that language.</p>
<h2>I understand what you are saying but if not government then what else can you do with a 2nd language?Except for becoming a teacher ~ Future13</h2>
<p>The military - that’s your best choice. Then maybe a contractor job, one that will pay for your clearance.</p>
<p>A language may or may not help you get a job with the government, rolling the dice.</p>
<p>If you want to be in the FBI, there are smarter paths to take, ones that can set you up for multiple careers.</p>
<p>Big since you seem to give the best advice i want to tell you something.I already know 1 language fluently and im currently majoring in accounting.Maybe this info will increase the range of my opportunities?</p>
<p>Working at CIA and FBI or DHS is HIGHLY selective. They take the best and brightest only and they get thousands of resumes a DAY. It takes 6months to a year or more to clear their fences, so to speak. They do need people who speak arabic and pashtu and russian and mandarin…but they prefer people who are american citizens and of that particular nationality or descent. </p>
<p>Go to their websites for more information. Millions dream of working there and very very few get in. CIA really wants former special forces military people for clandestine work and they only want elite intellectuals for intelligence analyst types.</p>
<h2>Working at CIA and FBI or DHS is HIGHLY selective. They take the best and brightest only and they get thousands of resumes a DAY. ~ Ghostbuster</h2>
<p>Sorry, but that gets a big LOL!</p>
<p>Yes, they do get thousands of resumes, but the best and the brightest? Give me a break - become a government worker then look me in the eye and tell me that without cracking a smile.</p>
<p>Remember, this is government - federal government. They hire crap, promote crap, frown upon innovation and punish for expressing creative ideas.</p>
<p>Fill out Form A to receive permission to fill out Form B, to grant access to Form C - complete joke.</p>
<p>It is not like the movies, not at all. People don’t have important “walk and talks” down hallways barking orders while reviewing the “file.” It’s a taxpayer ran operation, and it’s pretty obivous. </p>
<p>Their hiring system is so inefficient that many of the “best and brightest” simply move on in their careers, because, hey - can’t wait forever. Or you can fail a polygraph test, fail a physical, or the can just misplace your file for a year or two.</p>
<p>Remember, everyone makes the same amount of money, it’s based on time - not performance, not previous work experience. Basically, as along as you stick around, you get your standard raises, regardless of what kind of worker you are. All you have to do is not get fired - which is extremely easy, it’s terribly hard to fire a government employee.</p>
<p>Most of the “best and brightest” get tired of the BS and leave for the private sector where their talents can really be appreciated.</p>
<h2>Big since you seem to give the best advice i want to tell you something.I already know 1 language fluently and im currently majoring in accounting.Maybe this info will increase the range of my opportunities? ~ Future13</h2>
<p>It might, might not.</p>
<p>There is no magical pathway.</p>
<p>You will almost definitly not be hired out of college, extremely rare - very extremely rare, especially for the FBI. They require a minimum of 3 years working experience just to meet the minimum qualifications. Then you need to meet one of their critical skills, which a language could do, in some circumstances, but that doesn’t mean you will be competitive, it just means you they will look at your resume and probably make it to Phase II (or Phase I, I forget how they do it).</p>
<p>My advice is to just go become a Police Officer/Trooper, or join the military as an Officer. Federal agencies love Officers, especially Intel/Combat Arms/SF/Special Ops, but all branches look good on an application.</p>
<p>The CIA is a different animal, they pick what they want when they need it. Don’t try to do what you think they want, because you don’t know. Just find a field you are happy with and perhaps they will be interested in you, that’s how it works. But, overall - the best route is military.</p>
<h2>Working at CIA and FBI or DHS is HIGHLY selective ~ Ghostbuster</h2>
<p>DHS what?</p>
<p>Lots of people work for the DHS. Border Patrol is hiring like crazy, USSS UD is always hiring, as is USSS. CBP is usually hiring pretty strong.</p>
<p>BIG if not cia or fbi what other jobs can require a lot of traveling?I dont see spending all and each day in the office very fun:)</p>
<p>Again the military - you will travel all over the world, and be in an office very little for some positions.</p>
<p>But you need to do your homework, and 1811 in the FBI spends most of his time in an office. Same for the majority of CIA employees.</p>
<p>If you want to travel and work in LE, 1811’s for the State Department and Federal Air Marshals.</p>
<p>BTW, grow up. These jobs aren’t about having fun - they are very real and people get killed and hurt, these jobs don’t exist so you can play out your childhood fantasies of being a CIA/FBI agent.</p>