2nd tier schools for ibanking?

<p>is it possible?</p>

<p>The least selective schools i see everyone talking about for ibanking are umich and uchicago.</p>

<p>are there any other schools that are even less selective than those two that open up opportunities at an ibank?</p>

<p>i have seen UIUC, BC, and RU on a lot of recruiting lists. Can people really land big positions coming from these schools or are these all strictly for backoffice jobs.
are there any other less selective schools that get recruited at a lot due to their size/location?</p>

<p>what about schools with similar rankings to umich: CMU, Vandy, Tufts, Emory? do they get recruited at a lot or is umich an anomaly due to its strong business program?</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Umich may not be selective for freshman admissions, but no freshman is admitted to the business program. You only apply for your junior/senior year, and that is a very selective program. And Uchicago is not selective? this is news to me.</p>

<p>Um, freshman are accepted into the business program for now on at UMich.</p>

<p>uhm yea, cardinal, next time keep your opinion to yourself if its not relevant. thanks.</p>

<p>compared to HYP and wharton, which are the biggest target schools ibanks recruit at, uchicago and umich are not selective.</p>

<p>and you dont need to be in the business program at umich to get recruited by an ibank from there.</p>

<p>i hope someone can answer any of those questions i have and save this thread from being a flame war/offtopic.</p>

<p>Its possibly from Boston college. Maybe even from UIUC. However, I will add the direct entry to the business program at Ross will be very difficult to get into. Dont cross it off because those guys at Ross get a lot of recruiters from ibanking. Most Umich guys who go into ibanking come from Ross or engineering, two schools that are tops in their field. And Uchicago more or less created the basis for modern economic thought.</p>

<p>I bet Illinois gets more IBanks then Michigan :).</p>

<p>ok well</p>

<p>Uchicago
Umich
BC
UIUC
RU</p>

<p>that looks like a nice list to start out with. any others to add?</p>

<p>Specifically interested in: CMU, Vandebilt, Villanova,</p>

<p>Mahras, more LSA majors go into IBanking annually than Ross or Engineering students...but that's because LSA has over 3,000 students graduating annually, compared to only 300 from Ross and 1,000 from Engineering. In 1996, when I graduated, roughly 70 Ross students went to IBanks and about 30 Engineering students ended up in IBanks. From LSA, close to 100 students (primarily Econ, English, Math and Political Science) went into IBanking. Annually, roughly 200 Michigan undergrads end up in IBanks. Only Penn and maybe NYU do better.</p>

<p>I was speaking in terms of percentage Alexandre. Dont think they have the 2005 BBA employment summary up yet but 2004 was very nice. 22% in ibanking, 5% in S&T, and 3% in investment management. Almost a quarter of the class head off to positions in invetsment banks (Ibanking+trading). Thats a great amount. </p>

<p><a href="http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2004.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.bus.umich.edu/pdf/EmploymentProfile2004.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I agree, that is pretty impressive Mahras, especially when you consider that Ross is more known for Marketing and General Management. The number that impresses me most is the 20 or so students who joined JP Morgan. That's 6% of the entire class!</p>

<p>I like Umich's program because it's not just about IB. The employment profile has a wide range of different kinds of companies, like accounting firms and Fortune 500 companies. Less one-dimensional compared to other B-schools.</p>

<p>Hows cmu. Because it seems as if it is treated as if it is a tier two school.</p>

<p>CMU is NOT tier 2. It is Tier 1, both as an overall university and in Business studies.</p>

<p>Alexandre is correct. Actually, I read a sneak peak of the US News rankings and CMU is now tied with Stern for 5th. However, I think the reason it is not treated w/ as much respect as other top business schools is because of the careers cmu students go into. For example, in ibanking, many CMU students get the "back office" jobs, computer engineering, that sort of thing, while it's Wharton, Ivys, Stern, and Mich kids that do the actual "i-banking," which leads to this sort of smug superiority that I really don't understand, as CMU is a good school. hope that helps.</p>

<p>hey cardinal, according to your sneak peak , what is Simon School of Business from University of Rochester.</p>

<p>Last time I checked Khan, Simon is purely a graduate program.</p>

<p>Cardinal> The smug supremity comes from the fact that the ibankers and traders are the guys bringing in the money paid to the operations. Yes operations are important as the infrastructure needs to be efficient but overall money is made from other fields. Its much more lucrative to go into M&A or S&T rather than back office.</p>

<p>mahras, good point. khan, i got the rankings from the other college admissions board (whose name cannot be spoken), feel free to look if you want.</p>

<p>for west coast banking USC gets some decent recruiting and it's a pretty easy school to get into. Also as mahras mentioned BC. Georgetown (although Tier 1) gets good ibank recruiting at their UG business school (McDonough-sp?). That is the easier school at georgetown in terms of admission so if your are a top candidate for say wharton you can practically consider McDonough a target/safety.</p>