<p>Let's make the long story short.</p>
<p>I am now a new international (transfer) student at some us news top 100 univ from some engineering univ in Korea. I don't know whether I'm a freshman or sophomore now since my previous courses have not been evaluated into transfer credits yet. I entered the Korea univ in 2012, majoring civil engineering (chosen by my parents… I hated it). </p>
<p>I am now "undeclared" major, because "undeclared" doesn't require as high GPA as computer science does. My GPA was 2.97 for the 1st semester in Korea (used for transfer to this univ) and 3.4 for the 2nd semester (couldn't be used for 2013 fall transfer, of course). BTW, high school GPA is 3.3.</p>
<p>I know it by heart that I love computer science deeply, with 'A's in CS courses in Korea. I am now taking CS course here in U.S., and I'll declare major in CS next year.</p>
<p>My univ now is great. I really don't want to leave. But the CS department here is not very great… I want to transfer out, to some top CS university, like UIUC. I want a very famous alma mater.</p>
<p>I didn't take SAT/ACT. I just have 100 TOEFL (taken in Korea). Ehh, I haven't heard about "people transfer 2nd times". I know it is usual for me to apply transfer a second time, but… I don't know if it is practicable. I need your advice. </p>
<p>P.S. Taking SAT now will definatly shut my courses' grade down. I would rather spend time on courses this term rather than on preparing SAT. Without SAT I cannot apply MIT, Stanford, CMU etc, but I believe my GPA now isn't good enough to be admitted by them, regardless of my SAT score.</p>
<p>Thank you all!!! </p>
<p>Sean</p>
<p>I asked a similar question in another topic but still waiting for an answer. </p>
<p>I am in a similar situation as you. I scored 97 in TOEFL ( writing wasn’t great ) and I will take the SAT later. </p>
<p>You have to take the SAT and I think that you should register for SAT and subject tests now. I registered for SAT on the 5th of October and for the subject test in early November. The deadline for the exams in October is late August/early September. </p>
<p>You need to score above 750 in all SATs and subjects test, and your GPA should be above 3.5 ( some universities list that as minimum for some majors like CS) if you want to be competitive. You should also consider you Extracurricular activities and research in the said major. </p>
<p>CS requires a high GPA and lot of difficult prerequisites like university physics and calculus I,II,III and deferential equations. I think that you should read more about them in the websites of the universities that you want to transfer to.</p>
<p>Thanks dude!</p>
<p>I have witnessed tons of my compatriots enrolled in UMich, OSU, Wisc, and even Cal, as a transfer applicant from another 4-year institution, without SAT but with strong (like straight A) grades in related courses. Anyway I feel “UMich is not bad huh” So I decide to Go Blue anyway. </p>
<p>I really love MIT & Stanford, from I was a child, but unfortunately I couldn’t even plan to apply it while in high school (family causes, u know). I am not GPA 3.8 / straight A student with U.S. greencard / passport, anyway, I give up. Of courses, in my first list, MIT, S, Chicago, Columbia, Northwestern, Penn, CMU need my SAT (MIT even needs SAT Subject, u know). I am just not such nerd boy to “Be 3.8 and SAT 2200+” at the same time. So I thought, “3.8 without SAT or 3.6 with 2000+SAT?” I still choose the former one.</p>
<p>My Calculus, back in Korea, are As. Phys B (we don’t have B-/B+/A- in Korea). Anyway Korean courses are much tougher than here. I believe I could achieve As here with HARD effort which I always do (except my 1st semester in Korea…)</p>
<p>They really need SAT scores, but MIT asks for two subject tests and TOEFL for international transfer students. You should register for MathII and another subject test and then you can apply to MIT. </p>
<p>As a side note, you should focus on writing essays, extracurricular and research. You should provide them with a good reason for transferring to their university specifically.</p>
<p>Edit: Some universities ask for specific minimum GPAs for certain majors. CS is usually high and I think that Georgia tech asked for 3.5 as a minimum. Not sure though, you have to check their site and the requirement for engineering schools. </p>
<p>MIT didn’t list any specific minimum grades except for 80 in TOEFL. You should check for the minimum GPA for each college you’re trying to apply to.</p>
<p>You need to check the websites of the universities that you would apply to for transfer, and find out whether or not you need to take the SAT. Many will not accept SAT scores from tests taken after a student has begun studying in any university. Your university grades will matter much more than the SAT.</p>
<p>TOEFL is a different thing. Many places will require a more recent TOEFL score.</p>
<p>TOEFL expires after 2 years and some universities accept scores sent from the test center only.</p>
<p>I know, since I’ve already transferred once. I just wanna know if it is possible to transfer twice. </p>
<p>like: first year at A college, second year at B, and the latter two years at C.</p>
<p>I really don’t wanna take SAT since [the schools which need my SAT is those I couldn’t enroll].</p>
<p>Yes, you can transfer multiple times if you wish to do so.</p>
<p>However you do need to consider all of the factors that will enter into a transfer process. If transferring will delay your graduation or result in you spending a great deal more money for your education, it may not be worth pursuing after all.</p>
<p>Anyway I just transferred from outside the U.S., which means I already “have a promise” to delay: my one year overseas college’s work only transferred about half. Anyway it is deal. I could graduate on time if I want, but I want graduate better.</p>