<p>Thanks for the WUE tip. I will check that out right away. I’m a little frustrated with being so far behind in my research. Due to family issues, it couldn’t be helped, but I am so thankful to have helpful people out here to help fill in the significant gaps in my knowledge of all this!</p>
<p>My daughter has said she prefers the west or east coast because she has a feeling she’ll wind up living where she goes to school. However, I think that’s because we’ve always spent most vacations visiting family in New Jersey and California and she’s just more familiar. I have convinced her to look at Arizona State and University of Colorado so I’d say we’re still open to ideas.</p>
<p>tangosmom… check out Washington State too… my DS is applying to Western Washington…it participates in the WUE… so far everything I have read about it has been positive.</p>
<p>tangosmom, you’re not that far behind. Some parents don’t start until the fall of their student’s senior year.</p>
<p>Besides the CC search function and the Collegeboard one, I like the two below. One of them lets you sort your list by OOS COA which I found to be handy.</p>
<p>I’m sure if you list some preferences your daughter has–size, major, public/private, religious OK? etc people would be able to give you additional ideas.</p>
<p>5boys (You must be an extra busy mom!), we are going to check out Washington State (Wazoo, to us). Since we’re Washingtonians, and they have a guaranteed acceptance for state kids who get a 3.5, we think she still has a decent chance of getting in there, although she’s not enthusiastic about it. We’ve sort of considered it a fallback school. Of course, since I went to Univ of Washington, we’d be on opposite sides during the Apple Cup but there ya go. LOL I have friends whose kids have gone to Western Washington and haven’t heard anything negative. (One kid we know actually commuted from British Columbia!)</p>
<p>Proudwismom, thanks for all these links. I feel like I’m getting a helpful crash course. My daughter would do best in a larger school, I think–at least 10,000 or more? She is really interested in law and, in fact, we started our search by making a list of all the schools that participate in the American Mock Trial Association. (She’s competed at the high school level for two years already and will be “quarterback attorney” next year.) We are learning that “pre-law” isn’t what law schools will be looking for so she’ll probably major in English, History, or Political Science. Public or private doesn’t matter to us nor does religion. (She is in a Catholic school now which is open to all.)</p>
<p>5boys (You must be an extra busy mom!), we are going to check out Washington State (Wazoo, to us). Since we’re Washingtonians, and they have a guaranteed acceptance for state kids who get a 3.5, we think she still has a decent chance of getting in there, although she’s not enthusiastic about it. We’ve sort of considered it a fallback school. Of course, since I went to Univ of Washington, we’d be on opposite sides during the Apple Cup but there ya go. LOL I have friends whose kids have gone to Western Washington and haven’t heard anything negative. (One kid we know actually commuted from British Columbia!)</p>
<p>Proudwismom, thanks for all these links. I feel like I’m getting a helpful crash course. My daughter would do best in a larger school, I think–at least 10,000 or more? She is really interested in law and, in fact, we started our search by making a list of all the schools that participate in the American Mock Trial Association. (She’s competed at the high school level for two years already and will be “quarterback attorney” next year.) We are learning that “pre-law” isn’t what law schools will be looking for so she’ll probably major in English, History, or Political Science. Public or private doesn’t matter to us nor does religion. (She is in a Catholic school now which is open to all.)</p>
<p>Tangosmom, I am more familiar with schools in the upper midwest and my son focused on rural schools with around 10,000 students. However, I will try to give you some ideas. </p>
<p>She would meet the auto admit guidelines for both U of Kansas and Kansas State. I haven’t looked recently but she might also meet the min requirements for U of West Virginia. All are getting to be more popular schools and have large student bodies.</p>
<p>I think she would be admitted to Ball State in Indiana. We looked into this school and the administration were more than helpful. She also would have a chance at the U of Northern Iowa. UNI has a formula on their website that would let you know her likely admittance or not. </p>
<p>If her weighted GPA is higher and it’s listed on her transcript she might be able to get into Westminster University if Missouri. I’m not really sure so maybe someone else would have a better idea.</p>
<p>Although it’s higher in cost than what you mentioned, according to their average gpa it looks like she could be admitted to Suffolk University in Boston. Again though, I don’t have any first hand knowledge.</p>
<p>It seems like other B students have considered some of the SUNY schools.</p>
<p>pssst, That’s West Virginia University! University of South Carolina and University of Kentucky are two other big publics that have somewhat lower admission standards and are reasonably priced.</p>
<p>Thanks Kathiep. I know better—just typing faster than my brain! Do I remember correctly that your husband or another family member attended West Virginia University?</p>
<p>Tangosmom, is your guidance office unstaffed all summer? I just read that your D goes to Catholic school. Some Catholic schools in my area are notorious for grade deflation. Guidance should be able to give you an idea of what some match schools might be for your D. Also they may have naviance or a school profile(maybe not-some smalls schools don’t give out that info)that could help. The meaning of a GPA can vary greatly between schools.</p>
<p>Even if most students from her school go to college locally, you could find schools comparable to the west coast matches. Also geographic diversity may work in her favor.</p>
<p>Proudwismom, can you clarify what it takes for auto admission at Kansas University and Kansas State? The KU site seemed to suggest that my son would be an auto admit with his 1110 math/writing SAT score, but that seems too good to be true. Am I missing something? Also, any tips on the primary differences between the two schools? Thanks.</p>
<p>EdieNJ, our guidance office is closed this month at least. I forgot to call today to see when they’re back but when I sent an email to our counselor recently, I got one of those dreaded out-of-office replies. Our school does have Naviance but, unfortunately, I can’t access it yet because we weren’t able to see the counselor (and I neglected to call for a code). My fault. However, I just found info for our 2009 graduates and many of our kids are going all over the US. 150 stayed instate, 50 each at Gonzaga, Univ of Wash, and Washington State. Several went to California, others to the east coast (BU, BC, Penn, etc.) This year, we had at least two accepted to Notre Dame. (They are not only brothers but two out of three triplets!) We had 3 national merit scholars…not sure what that means, since it’s not on OUR radar. LOL I just learned from my daughter yesterday that our school does NOT weight grades so, what we see is what we get. </p>
<p>On a side note, we got her APUSH AP score today: 3 Not that helpful but at least respectable. :-)</p>
<p>Proudwismom, I will look into Ball State. I don’t know about getting her to consider Indiana but my hubby and son go to a Notre Dame game every year (my hubby’s an east coast cradle Catholic, can you tell?) and she was going to go this time to look around. Not Notre Dame, of course. Anyone have any opinions about Holy Cross there? It’s smaller…I only knew about it from the movie Rudy. LOL</p>
<p>Tulare the auto admit requirements are pretty staight forward. The student has to meet one of the three guidelines;</p>
<p>Kansas State: GPA 2.5 or ACT 21 / SAT 980 (CR + M) or top 3rd of class.</p>
<p>U of Kansas: GPA 2.5 or ACT 24 / SAT 1090 (CR + M) or top 3rd of class.</p>
<p>I believe the GPA is calculated off their list of core classes.</p>
<p>Once my son decided on a smaller school I stopped looking at both KU and Kansas State so I really can’t help you with the differences. I do know from reading other posts that both schools have a lot of school spirit and are becoming popular with OOS students. I’m sure if you started a thread requesing info you’d get some answers from others with more knowledge than what I have.</p>
<p>Quite a few of the midwest state schools have auto admit guidelines on their websites.</p>
<p>Sorry Tangosmom I don’t know about Holy Cross.</p>
<p>Holy Cross admissions are very competitive. Our naviance shows results very similar to Boston College with average GPA at over 4.0 for admitted students, with almost no one under a 4.0 admitted. </p>
<p>Some other catholic schools that might be more realistic listed by gpa/sat scores highest to lowest on our naviance are:</p>
<p>Fordham 3.7 1880</p>
<p>Loyola MD 3.6 1820</p>
<p>Fairfield 3.6 1800</p>
<p>St Josephs PA 3.4 1720</p>
<p>University of Scranton 3.3 1700</p>
<p>Siena college 3.3 1700</p>
<p>Some of these gpa’s look high but they all seem to have some students admitted in the 3.0 to 3.3 range with 1900 + SAT’s which your D has. I think many are popular safety schools for some higher stat kids.</p>
<p>I wanted to add that our naviance shows Rutgers with about a 3.6/1920 average admit but some students in your D’s range were admitted there too.(a few admitted after being deferred or waitlisted) Not sure if OOS makes a difference. Maybe it will help as the look for more oos $$$$.</p>
<p>Le Moyne and Siena admitted ,with nice merit $, NY students with 86 or 87 UW average. A number of D’s peers were accepted there. At Siena’s accepted student day they made it clear the administration and student support positions were used to providing significant interaction/support/direction for students. While there might be motivated students there (I know of some) they also made it clear that some freshman need significant propping up and they will knock on doors, check on class attendance and step in when necessary to help the student be successful that first year.</p>
<p>Thanks for these tips. Being on the West Coast, we’re more familiar with the Catholic colleges over here (such as Gonzaga) but Siena looks especially interesting. Will check it out. Thanks! And I think we won’t give up on Rutgers after all. Her dad would like her to go there and I suspect you’re right that more schools these days are happy to have the extra OOS dollars. (They probably don’t consider legacies.) I have to admit, with most of my hubby’s family in New Jersey, we’d be comfortable with her being all the way out there. :-)</p>
<p>"Tangosmom, there is a Western B student thread on the Parent’s Forum. You might have to search for it but it would give you additional ideas. "</p>
<p>I’d like to comment on the discussion about paying for college for a child who doesn’t put forth the effort. DD (our oldest) worked her butt off, got into some very selective schools and got generous aid at some less competitive schools. Her younger brother, a rising sophomore had a less than stellar freshman year. Did ok on tests, but couldn’t be bothered to do his homework. Our position with him is it’s one thing for him not to do his work in HS, it’s another for us to pay for him not to do his work in college. We’ve told him that going away to college is a privilege (one we’re willing to pay for, but he has to earn). CC could be in his future.</p>
I will check that out right away. I’m a little frustrated with being so far behind in my research. Due to family issues, it couldn’t be helped, but I am so thankful to have helpful people out here to help fill in the significant gaps in my knowledge of all this!</p>