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<p>Can I major in something like poli sci and still be able to fulfill the prereqs at these colleges if I successfully transfer? Do any of these colleges accept transfer credits from a two year college?</p>
<p>Sorry that I keep posting questions about this program.I was thinking of transferring to these colleges and was a little worried about the difficulty of getting into any of them. I am from CA and my HS gpa is a 2.7 and my ACT is 24. I am going to a CCC next year. I want to do biomedical engineering I am an AA and had to go through bullying, depression, and being homeless...</p>
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Bowdoin*
Brandeis*
Carleton*
Claremont Mckenna*
Colby*
Columbia
Grinnel
Middlebury
Pitzer*
Wesleyan*
William and Mary
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<p>Columbia natively has engineering.</p>
<p>It does not seem to make a lot of sense to go to CC, transfer once to a spend a year at a “3” school in a 3-2 program, then transfer again to a “2” school to complete an engineering degree.</p>
<p>It would make more sense to set up your CC schedule to prepare to transfer to a university as a junior to complete your engineering degree. If you are a California resident, you should include UCs and CSUs in your target list, as they will accept your CC courses as described on [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) .</p>
<p>Well I want to have two bachelors degrees and then do a MS to make up forthe years I will be losing being at a CC. Columbia has a 3-2 engineering for the Columbia College students and I am fully aware of the Fu Foundation. Also, UCs are too big for me.</p>
<p>You still didn’t answer any of my questions…</p>
<p>Okay, first, the only 3-2 program I’m aware of that guarantees admission if you fulfill the requirements at your liberal arts college is Columbia. (Possibly WashU also???) So make sure you limit yourself to Columbia partner schools.</p>
<p>Second, from all the research that I’ve done, the only way you’re going to be able to fulfill the prerequisites is if you major in science or math. If you try to do poli sci . . . you’re going to have a VERY difficult three years. Keep in mind that what you’d be doing is pretty much tantamount to trying to complete a dual major - in 3 years! Not a good idea.</p>
<p>Finally, if you’re serious about doing this (and it sounds like you are), I’d suggest limiting your applications to the least competitive schools on Columbia’s list. You’ve got to maintain a 3.2 or 3.3 GPA to get into Columbia . . . don’t make that any more difficult than you have to.</p>
<p>And, if you really want to do biomedical engineering, why not just apply directly to Univ. of Alabama Birmingham? That’s their area of expertise, and it’s probably easier to get into than any of the schools you’ve listed. (And, I’d guess, more willing to take transfer credit.) UA-Birmingham is just one of MANY engineering schools that are a whole lot easier to get into than any of the schools on your list! Look at Wyoming, for example . . . as a California resident, you’d be eligible for a tuition discount, I believe. (You’d need to double-check that, though.)</p>
<p>As for your chances of admission at the schools you’ve listed . . . well, those are some of the most competitive schools in the country. You’d have to have an absolutely stellar record to even be considered as a transfer student. Your high school GPA and test score will NOT cut it.</p>
<p>Thank you Dodgersmom. I should just stick to biology then. I am taking GE and science classes at my CCC and trying to get some credits transferred. I think I should apply to easier LACs too thanks.</p>
<p>I know that you can’t complete a 3-2 program at my school, which has 3-2 partnerships with Columbia, Caltech and Duke, among others, unless you’ve earned at least 22 credits here (you need 30 to graduate, and most people take 7 or 8 per year), which would seem to preclude transfer students from participating.</p>
<p>I imagine this applies to most other LACs as well. I just can’t see how a dual degree program would work out for a junior transfer student–why would a four-year college give you a bachelor’s degree for one year’s worth of work?</p>
<p>Really look at each 3-2 program to make sure you’d be eligible to participate as a transfer student. Most colleges have a requirement that you take a certain number of credits with them to be awarded a degree from them. That’s already being sort of waived at the “3” school as part of the 3-2 agreement.</p>
<p>I was planning on transferring as a sophomore and I know it’s a long shot. If I don’t get into any of these my sophomore year, I’ll apply to UCs.</p>
<p>Wow, just wow. When I give stupid advice, I give REALLY stupid advice!</p>
<p>I was looking at the 3-2 program as if you’d be entering as a freshman . . . I totally disregarded that key piece of you trying to do it as a transfer student. So, no, what the posters upthread have said is correct . . . I don’t believe there is ANY way you could do this as an incoming junior. The GPA and course requirements for the 3-2 program must be completed at the partner school. Period. Columbia is relying on the academic rigor of the partner school (and the partner school’s grading system) to screen students eligible to enter the 3-2 program. If you haven’t completed the requirements at the partner school, I don’t believe there’s any way you’d be eligible.</p>
<p>Further, as noted upthread, no LAC is going to grant you a degree after one year. Of you’re going to transfer in as a junior, you’d have to stay through your senior year in order to graduate.</p>
<p>Columbia also offers a 4-2 program, I believe, and that might be an option . . . but I’d still be apprehensive about Columbia signing off on coursework completed somewhere other than the LAC.</p>
<p>In any event, this is all easy enough to verify. Just call Columbia.</p>
<p>Sorry I was going to apply as a transfer for sophomore standing, I will even take freshman standing if possible (I rather get that). Sorry for the confusion everyone. I am going to call/email Columbia tomorrow about this. I just want to go to a 4 year college, even if my credits don’t transfer. Years before I had a crappy life and I just want to do something I really want to do.</p>
<p>Well, if you can enter the LAC with freshman standing, that would make a huge difference. Not sure about sophomore standing, but it’s a step in the right direction. From what I understand, it takes a lot of planning, starting in freshman year, to get all requirements satisfied in three years . . . so the earlier you can start, the better.</p>
<p>When you contact Columbia, you might want to check on financial aid also - if you’re eligible for need-based aid at the LAC, would you be eligible for need-based aid during both of the two years you’re at Columbia also?</p>
<p>And you might want to contact Washington University in St. Louis . . . I honestly can’t recall where their 3-2 program was automatic admit or not. And ask them about financial aid also.</p>
<p>Just so you know, some time back I contacted the program directors at several LAC’s to ask them about their 3-2 programs . . . and the general consensus was that most students who start out thinking they’re going to do 3-2 end up not doing it. Not because they can’t, but because they decide they’d rather stay at their LAC.</p>
<p>@dodgersmom should I just apply to a college that has an actual biomedical engineering program then? 3-2 sounds like a hassle.</p>
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<p>Sounds like a hassle? It IS a hassle . . . and that’s why almost none of the students who set out to do the program actually end up completing it!</p>
<p>There are dozens of engineering schools with biomedical engineering programs that are easier to get into than any of the LAC’s you listed. Unless you REALLY want that liberal arts degree, I don’t know why you’d even consider a 3-2 program. If you go directly to an engineering school, you graduate sooner and, unless you get full FA at the LAC, it costs you less. (Less time = less money.)</p>
<p>You’ve got state school options in California, although they’re not the easiest schools to get into . . . but if you can get in, you’re eligible for aid. Check out Santa Cruz . . . it’s not too big, not as hard to get into as some of the other schools, and does have an engineering program. Areas of expertise include bioengineering and biomolecular engineering.</p>
<p>Your other option is to get your undergrad degree in science, and then go to grad school for biomed. engineering. To do that, you can get your undergrad degree anywhere (including any of the Cal. State universities) . . . the only thing that really counts is your GPA.</p>
<p>Look, I’m a big fan of liberal arts degrees . . . and if you have the stat’s to get admitted to one of the LAC’s that guarantees to meet 100% of need, then I’d say to go for it, and do the engineering in grad school. But the stat’s you posted are not going to get you into those schools . . . and incurring debt for the liberal arts degree, when you know you want to do engineering, just doesn’t make sense.</p>
<p>That being said, that are schools out there that will give you a 4-year degree for free . . . there aren’t very many of them, but they exist. No idea what their policies are regarding transfer students. Just do a google search for colleges with free tuition.</p>
<p>Then take another look at Santa Cruz . . .</p>
<p>Yes, by all means go to a school that has an actual biomed engineering program. You won’t really know if engineering is the right path for you without some exposure to an engineering curriculum, and the 3-2 doesn’t really provide that.
And since you are already taking a slightly indirect path, why make it more complicated by attempting a 3-2?
You will need to really apply yourself in community college in order to convince colleges that you can handle either an engineering program or a 3-2 program.
Right now, I don’t think the schools you mentioned in your post would accept a student with your current statistics. I know that sounds harsh, but if you look up their acceptance rates and their student profiles… I think the most practical approach is to start at the CC, then go to a state school that offers biomed eng. and that accepts your CC credits, THEN go to your original list for grad school. Most BME’s go for a Master’s degree anyway.
Do you have access to some college counselors at the Comm.College who can help you create a plan for achieving your objectives?</p>
<p>From [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) , here are California public universities with bioengineering:</p>
<p>Bioengineering (Biotechnology) B.S. (UCSD)
Bioengineering B.S. (UCB, UCLA, UCM, UCR, UCSC, UCSD)
Bioengineering B.S. (Bioelectronics Concentration) (UCSC)
Bioengineering B.S. (Biomolecular Concentration) (UCSC)
Bioengineering B.S. (Rehabilitation Concentration) (UCSC)
Bioengineering/Materials Science and Engineering B.S. (UCB)
Bioengineering: Bioinformatics B.S. (UCSD)
Bioengineering: Premedical B.S. (UCSD)
Biomedical Engineering B.S. (UCD, UCI)
Biomedical Engineering: Premedical B.S. (UCI)
Chemical Engineering B.S. Bioengineering Option (UCR)
Engineering B.S. with Biomedical and Clinical Engineering Option (CSULB)
General Engineering B.S., (Concentration in Bioengineering) (SJSU)</p>
<p>Note that bioengineering seems to be a popular major; SJSU’s fall 2012 admissions cycle had a 3.50 GPA threshold for transfer students applying to general engineering bioengineering concentration, according to [SJSU</a> Admission](<a href=“http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/narr/admission/rec-1013.html]SJSU”>http://info.sjsu.edu/web-dbgen/narr/admission/rec-1013.html) . This is considerably higher than for some other majors, such as chemical, industrial, or materials engineering, which required only a 2.00 GPA for transfer admission to SJSU in fall 2012.</p>