3/2 Engineering

<li><p>Does UoR nominates students from the group to different universities(like Occidental) or do students have to apply themselves?</p></li>
<li><p>Does UoR extend the financial aid to the partner institution? If not, how difficult is it for a student to secure fin aid from the partner institution?</p></li>
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<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>ajayc, the best person to ask this of is the advisor in charge of the program. You can find the contact information at the bottom of the following page. University</a> of Richmond: Engineering Dual Program</p>

<p>Thanks Spiders05!</p>

<p>I found that page right after posting the above question,though :)</p>

<p>As an FYI, it's UR not UoR. Best of luck with your selection process.</p>

<p>ajayc, I saw that you also applied to a couple of the NESCAC schools as well as UR. My final decision came down to Bates and UR (I also looked at Williams, Bowdoin and Middlebury). In the end, the warmer weather, distance from home (still 600 miles away), prettier girls and D-I athletics won out. I just found it interesting that you were looking up that way. I don't think UR competes too much with those schools.</p>

<p>Ajay--In answer to question 1, Richmond would follow more the 2nd option where students themselves determine which of the engineering programs would more closely meet their needs and apply to those. The faculty support the process, they don't direct you to one option over another. </p>

<p>As for financial aid, this is a challenging topic. UR's aid will not travel to another institution and each of the partners handles aid differently, so there is a good bit of homework that has to be done by the student about that issue to cover their bases from a financial standpoint. The other option is that students can choose to finish a bachelors at UR and apply to graduate programs in engineering apart from the 3/2 program. In those cases students can apply for graduate aid and assistantships to support their costs. For some students that may be a better option.</p>

<p>Not to hijack this thread, but am I to assume that UR has no input into the tuition for the last 2 yrs at Duke for the marine biology program. Should Duke be looking for 90K over the 2 yrs it would indeed be a daunting prospect. I would expect a marine biologist should be able to repay that kind of debt easily within 50 years ;^) ???</p>

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ajayc, I saw that you also applied to a couple of the NESCAC schools as well as UR. My final decision came down to Bates and UR (I also looked at Williams, Bowdoin and Middlebury). In the end, the warmer weather, distance from home (still 600 miles away), prettier girls and D-I athletics won out. I just found it interesting that you were looking up that way. I don't think UR competes too much with those schools.

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<p>I absolutely <3 UR (Thanks for the info, I kept writing it as UoR). If UR meets my aid requirements which is quite huge I have no doubts in my mind that I will be attending UR this fall. Since I am international student, that too asian, requiring huge aid, I have to apply to a variety of places which I think would shell out some aid. UR is great for me but I hope I receive enough aid! :)</p>

<p>UR Admissions: Thank you for the info! </p>

<p>On a side note, I still haven't heard back regarding my Mid year report from the Admissions Office, UR Admissions.</p>

<p>ajay--</p>

<p>You are all set. Your file is now complete. You'll hear from us right around April 1. </p>

<p>brigdencole--</p>

<p>As for the Duke question, that program is not a 3/2. It is a cooperative arrangement between Duke's Marine Labs and Richmond's biology department. Normally students would study at Duke for a semester--with prior approval of course work to be taken so that it will all be accepted back as transfer credit. Richmond's financial aid will NOT cover that experience but our financial aid office could help you apply for loans. Whether or not Duke would extend need-based financial aid to "visiting students" I do not know, but perhaps a professor in the biology department would and you'd certainly be welcome to talk to them about this. There are plenty of institutions that offer marine biology as an undergraduate major--if that is your career objective, perhaps one of those is a better fit. I tend to think of this program as being more appropriate for a student who loves biology but is uncertain at the time of college matriculation about any sort of specialty area. Once they get here, and something triggers an interest in marine science, this is a way to get a taste of it (you can also do summer coursework there) to see if it is what you want to do in grad school. </p>

<p>There are several other cooperative programs of this sort offered at Richmond. Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute and American U's Washington Semester program would fit in the same category as the Duke program. We think that American has in some cases offered need-based aid to students in their program. But it is the student's responsibility to inquire with the institution about their eligibility for aid when attending programs of that sort.</p>

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Thank you for setting us straight on the Marine Bio programs. They sound much more feasible and I'm sure quite rewarding. Would we be correct in assuming that a semester at Woods Hole or Duke would be equivalent to, or in lieu of a "semester aboad"? I agree with the prevalent thinking that a broader liberal arts cirriculum with perhaps, Biology as a major, would better serve a student than beginning with a very narrow specialized field. (i.e. learn how to research and think critically 1st)...then apply those skills in graduate school. I do very much like the possibility of a semester's taste of a possible passion during undergraduate study!</p>

<p>Yes, conceptually the Duke program (as well as Woods Hole, American U) is much like a study abroad semester. It's wonderful to hear a student articulate the benefit of the broad liberal arts fields as critical thinking and research skills first! </p>

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<p>That is precisely the reason why I wanted to attend a LAC. Though I know what I want to major in, I still want to explore other academic areas. I dont want to miss out on literature or humanities when I am studying science.</p>