3.2 GPA, late bloomer, HIGH SAT score, top university?

<p>How about college boards “how do I stack up” feature?</p>

<p>[Academic</a> Tracker - Meet College Admission Requirements - High School Class Selection](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>

<p>Momtocollegekids: You are so right! Remember who the reps work for- they work for the colleges, not the applicants! Their job is to encourage people to apply, so the colleges can collect application fees and enjoy a low yield, which makes them more attractive to people like USNWR and CC members.</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>Lol 90% of emory students were in the top 10% of their hs class, 98% of cornell students were in the top 25%, and 96% of BCs students were in the top 25%, and most kids who go to those school have at least 2100s. </p>

<p>Those are just the facts, I’m not telling you not to apply but you need to be honest with yourself. They are high reaches at best</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>I know hearing what is said here is difficult. But one thing most of the regular posters here are not is ill-informed.</p>

<p>We live in south Texas. My son has a 3.8 UW, 35 ACT and 2310 SAT. According to his guidance counselor, he could “write his own ticket and it was just a matter of choosing which top school you want to attend.”</p>

<p>Here’s what I learned reading the Yale and Brown acceptance threads; students who are first in their top ranked high school class with a 4.0 UW and a 2350 get rejected from them. Of course, students with lower scores get accepted, but it is brutal.</p>

<p>Some of these schools accept less than 10% of the applicants. That means more than 9 out of 10 get a rejection letter. It’s simply a matter of demographics. There are far too many “superstars” out there than there are slots in the top colleges. </p>

<p>My son’s guidance counselor didn’t mislead him on purpose, but geographically she is at a disadvantadge. It was not only CC but when I asked friends who worked in top New England high schools to take a look at this numbers that I began to grasp what 93 out of 100 not being accepted looks like, or even 85 out of 100. </p>

<p>Living in Texas, I have often come across parents/students from out of state who do not understand how difficult it is to get into UT-Austin from out of state. Getting into a school like UVA is like getting into an Ivy for an out of state student. </p>

<p>There are exceptions to every rule but ancedotes are not data. Taking the chance that you will have the same luck that someone you know has had is not a good plan. Pick a few super-reaches and reaches but find matches and safteys that you really love. If you know what you’re looking for and what your financial constraints are, this place can be a fantastic source of great information. </p>

<p>I wish you the best of luck.</p>

<p>EMORY:</p>

<p>The following statistics are for the Emory College first-year class, beginning in the fall of 2009. </p>

<p>Applications
Applied 15,610
Admitted 28%
Enrolled 1,315</p>

<p>Academics - Admitted Students
Average GPA, middle 50% 3.71 - 3.98 / 4.0 unweighted scale
SAT verbal, middle 50% 640–730
SAT math, middle 50% 660–750
SAT total, middle 50% 1320–1460
ACT, middle 50% 29–33 </p>

<p>BOSTON COLLEGE</p>

<p>Undergraduate Students 9,060
Graduate Students 4,843
ADMISSION
Entrance Difficulty Very difficult
Overall Admission Rate 26% of 30,845 applicants were admitted
Early Action Offered Yes
Early Decision Offered No
Regular Admission Deadline January 1
Selection of Students
Factor Very Important Important Considered Not Considered
Academic GPA X<br>
Standardized Tests X<br>
Essay X<br>
Extracurricular Activities X<br>
More Factors…<br>
Qualifications of Enrolled Freshmen
Average GPA Not reported
SAT Math 685 average
640-730 range of middle 50%
SAT Critical Reading 655 average
610-700 range of middle 50%
SAT Writing 665 average
620-710 range of middle 50%
ACT Composite 30 average
28-32 range of middle 50%</p>

<p>NYU:
Academic Statistics (Four-year Programs)
Average High School GPA: 3.63
SAT Critical Reading Score Range (middle 50%): 630 - 730
SAT Math Score Range (middle 50%): 650 - 750
ACT Score Range (middle 50%):29 - 31
Ranked in Top 10% of High School Class: 69.7%</p>

<p>UNC is very tough for OOS students to get into because of the limit of 18% OOS.</p>

<p>It’s difficult for a high SAT to make up for a low GPA… one is based on a few hours the other is based on years. </p>

<p>If you’re GPA is being weighted down by low grades during Fresh/Soph year then if you can put in a really strong showing during Junior year it will really help.</p>

<p>to be quite frank with you all, it’s extremely apparent that a number of things in this thread are very suspect</p>

<p>for example, no UVA admissions rep would say a 3.2 is excusable as long as someone has a 1300. A 1300 SAT score is rather below par for UVA admission standards (both in and out of state) and would logically not make up for a 3.2 GPA regardless of the school which is basically entirely out of range for UVA. </p>

<p>You do have to remember, Virginia has some of the best magnet/private high schools in the country, a 3.2 from these schools (and we’re in-state) would nowhere near be enough to get in. Also keep in mind that a 2200 isn’t atypical at UVA, there are lots of students with this type of SAT score here, and that wouldn’t make up for it. At my magnet high school in VA, we have kids with 2200-2300 scores get flat rejected because their grades weren’t up to par.</p>

<p>Could it be the rep was thinking of 1300/1600 instead of 1300/2400?</p>

<p>marite, i meant 1300/1600.</p>

<p>the average accepted student last year had a 1390 and the average enrolled i believe was around 1360. Keep in mind, both of these averages include recruited athletes as well as URMs (for some URM groups UVA admissions is extremely different than for the typical UVA student).</p>

<p>logically, there’s no way then that a 1300 would make up for a 3.2</p>

<p>I’m looking at the Naviance data for our school you can take it or leave it as you please. University of Vermont virtually everyone who had a weighted GPA of 85 from our school got in. University of Virginia is another kettle of fish, no one got in with less than a weighted 93 (probably about a B+ unweighted.) Boston College looks similar to UVA. UNC is super selective according to our statistics, though there is one outlier with much lower grades, I’m guessing an athlete. Emory we have a couple of B+ students who got accepted. All of our highest SAT scorers get waitlisted at Emory. It’s very weird. Cornell no one has gotten in with less than a 94 weighted GPA. NYU looks more feasible, we have a number of students accepted with weighted GPAs around 90. So I’d say at least if you were at our school, your chances were slim of getting in at most of the universities you listed. By all means if you love them apply, but you need some matches and safeties. All these schools are a big stretch unless there’s something we don’t know about you. Obviously all we have is your numbers.</p>

<p>Thanks for the clarification. I did think that 1300/1600 was a bit low, too, to make up for a subpar GPA.</p>

<p>I would agree that a 1300 CR/Math SAT score would not make up for a less than stellar GPA when applying to UVA or W/M…or Brown, Cornell, Emory, BC, NYU.</p>

<p>The good thing is that the OP said he/she has already applied to some safety schools. That is a good thing.</p>

<p>I DO think that UVM (U of Vermont) is within reach…but I will caution the OP that it is a very expensive school for out of state students. I would think that U Del is in the match range…not a safety…but IS also a possibility. </p>

<p>There is nothing wrong with applying to a reach school or two or three…as long as there are some match and safety schools on the list too. It sounds like this is the case.</p>

<p>To the OP (who is not reading this thread…just in case you come back). Good luck to you. I hope it all works out.</p>

<p>There is one thing that many people may not be thinking of. There are some particular, usually private or magnet schools that are very well known to colleges. These schools practice active grade deflation and are extremely selective to get into in the first place. My son went to one of those schools, and based on his grades, there were several schools that he got into that if he’d looked purely at the numbers or averages, he wouldn’t have even bothered to apply. If you are going to one of those high schools, particularly if you raise your SAT a bit, you may have more of a shot than people think.</p>

<p>Brown is practically out of reach for any human being, Cornell coming close…but of course you need your dream schools, so you want to pick some of the super reaches. You may have a surprising advantage for some of the out of state schools-they are looking for $$$ and you can’t really tell what their policy is this year by looking at the past. Another thing, is if you did poorly in your freshman year and that is dragging your GPA down, some schools don’t even compute that in the GPA.</p>

<p>Well, you’re being fact checked on Yahoo Answers. I find it kind of funny that one would consider that a more credible source.</p>

<p>to everyone on page 2 </p>

<p><em>yawns</em></p>

<p>great job, keep pulling up more numbers and see if I care to buy in</p>

<p>to thumper and busdriver, thanks.</p>

<p>By the way I already have some safety schools on my list and everything, everyone on this thread is catching a fit.</p>

<p>Once again, same people with “experience” telling kids “don’t apply to a good school you won’t make it!”</p>

<p>As for yahoo answers, quite a bit of people there actually know their stuff as compared to this site where a 2300 and 4.0 GPA along with tons of ECs and volunteer hours is not good enough for Yale.</p>

<p>Protagonist:</p>

<p>You are totally at liberty to ignore the comments that you yourself solicited.
the information I pulled on Emory and NYU come from their websites. If you want more information, each of the schools you are considering have their own forum on CC, under CC Top colleges. At the top of the forum is a link for applicant stats. Some are for students who are currently applying but many are for students who applied last year and were either admitted or rejected. These can serve as guides for you.
It’s good that you already have some safeties. As for reaches, if you don’t apply you will certainly not get in. Just be realistic about your chances.</p>

<p>

</p>

<p>My S had better than a 2300, an A- unweighted average, 5s on all AP exams, maximum rigor, strong ECs, 3-season varsity athlete, volunteer hours, state and national awards, and he didn’t get into Yale.</p>

<p>And by the way, I’d advise asking someone with a better grasp of grammar to review your essays.</p>

<p>Man, OP . . . RUDE. Why are you even asking these questions if you’re only going to listen to the people who say what you want to hear? People are just trying to help you.</p>

<p>I don’t know why you asked if you didn’t want to listen. It’s true you can’t get into a school you don’t apply to. Come back in April and make us all eat humble pie.</p>

<p>Oh yes, lets crucify someone for not having the good grammar shall we?</p>

<p>Also being rude? Not really, I asked and listed my situation but everyone kept bugging on the 3.2 GPA (“IT DOESN’T MATTER, A 3.2 IS A 3.2 NO MATTER WHAT, YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT ANYWHERE”).</p>

<p>Get your forks and spoons ready for some humble pie then, I may not be a valedictorian but I lived a rough life as an Asian American in a deep south town. I am applying and even if I don’t get in, at least I had guts to try out and not for fall your “expert” advices.</p>