3-2 year programs (engineering) to Columbia - any aid?

<p>I'm intend on enrolling in a pre-engineering program at CUNY Queens College. The program consists of 3 years at Queens College, then as long as I maintain a 3.0 gpa, I transfer to Columbia. I'm just wondering if there is much financial there...and if anybody here has ever experienced/known people who have done this.</p>

<p>Anyone? :(</p>

<p>Yes, I do know someone who did the program … he is going for free (<$60,000 family income).</p>

<p>Is the program associated with Columbia? Or is it with another school? Also, did he transfer already (meaning he’s in the last two years)?</p>

<p>I should have said he’s “doing” the program, rather than “did.” The program is associated with a Top 20 LAC - that is, it’s an agreement between the LAC & Columbia. It’s a 3-2 program, but he actually did 4 years at the LAC & will be transferring this year to Columbia for the 2 year program after graduation (even though he was accepted & could have come after his junior year).</p>

<p>Do you happen to know how he is going to Columbia for free? Like was it only his family income or was it other factors, such as his GPA? Or did you mean that he’s going to his current school (not Columbia) for free?</p>

<p>Kelsmom,
Do you know where you can read about the 3/2 with Columbia for top 20 LACs. I assume that includes Amherst? Do any schools or Columbia have similar programs with other majors (in addition to engineering). Thanks</p>

<p>ijamjl, Columbia is free due to low family income. His current school’s financial aid package includes loans, so the Columbia program will be a real bonus for him. I do need to caution that this is second-hand information … this is what he told me. I don’t have any reason to doubt him, but you would absolutely need to check with Columbia’s financial aid office to see what their policies are.</p>

<p>Collegesgirl, he didn’t know about the 3-2 program when he chose his current school. It’s something he found out about while in school … engineering hadn’t actually ever been on his radar when he started college. You can search Amherst’s website for partner programs, 3-2 programs, consortium agreements, etc. Also look at Columbia’s website for similar information. If you are creative, internet searches can pull up a lot of really cool hidden information about these kinds of programs. They seem to be the sort of thing students stumble across … but if you do good google searches, you can uncover them in advance.</p>

<p>Best of luck to both of you. There are some great programs out there!</p>

<p>Thanks Kelsmom…</p>

<p>is this option available in all CUNY’s such as City College or only Queens?</p>

<p>There are over ninety liberal arts colleges and universities, including those colleges at Columbia, in which a student can enroll in a Combined Plan program leading to two degrees. As each liberal arts college requires the completion of a specified curriculum to qualify for the baccalaureate from that institution, students interested in this program should inform the liaison officer at their home institution as early as possible, preferably in the first year.</p>

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The 3-2 Combined Plan undergraduate program offers students from affiliated schools the opportunity to earn both a B.A in a liberal arts field from their home institution and a B.S. in engineering from Columbia University’s Fu Foundation School of Engineering and Applied Science (SEAS) in five years.</p>

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<p>The Combined Plan admissions process maintains a need-blind financial aid policy. Columbia awards no merit scholarships.
For U.S. Citizens, U.S. Permanent Residents, persons granted refugee visas by the U.S., and Mexican and Canadian Citizens:</p>

<p> Columbia is need-blind, meaning an applicant’s financial need does not affect his or her chances of admission.</p>

<p>** Though Columbia is need-blind, we do not guarantee that we can meet 100% of demonstrated financial need for all admitted Combined Plan students.**</p>

<p>**For foreign students:
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<p> Columbia is also need-blind for foreign students applying to the Combined Plan Program, meaning that an applicant’s financial need does not affect his or her chances of admission.</p>

<p> Financial aid for is available for foreign students, but it is limited. Students may be granted admission to the Combined Plan program but are not guaranteed funding.</p>

<p> Columbia does not guarantee that it will meet 100% of demonstrated financial need for foreign students awarded financial aid.</p>

<p> If financial aid is awarded, it is guaranteed for the two years needed to complete the engineering degree requirements.</p>

<p> If financial aid is not awarded at the time of admission, it will not be awarded for any subsequent years.</p>

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<p>I’m intend on enrolling in a pre-engineering program at CUNY Queens College. The program consists of 3 years at Queens College, then as long as I maintain a 3.0 gpa, I transfer to Columbia.</p>

<p>Columbia is need-blind, meaning an applicant’s financial need does not affect his or her chances of admission.</p>

<p>Is it true that you’re guaranteed admission to Columbia if you’re in that program and you only have a 3.0 GPA?</p>

<p>3-2 program only takes ~ 150 students in the combined program. Students must have a 3.0 overall gpa and a 3.0 in a series of courses that must be completed in 4 consecutive semesters.</p>

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<p>Admission is guaranteed if you: </p>

<p>1.Have been enrolled at an affiliated school for at least the past 2 years.</p>

<p>2.Receive an overall GPA and a pre-engineering GPA of 3.0 or higher.</p>

<p>3.Receive 3 favorable recommendations: from your Combined Plan liaison and one each from your science and math instructors at your home institution. </p>

<p>4.Have successfully completed the course load stipulated by the articulation agreement between your home institution and Columbia, which includes: the science and math prerequisite courses listed in the Pre-Combined Plan Curriculum Guide and the major and distribution requirements prescribed by your home institution</p>

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<p>Can I get a BS from the Liberal Arts College instead of a BA if they offer it? (e.g. Brandeis or The College of William and Mary)</p>