<p>A+: 4.3-4
A-: 4.0-3.67
B+: 3.67-3.34
B: 3.34-3.00
and so on..</p>
<p>During the admission process, do grad committees convert GPAs in 4.3 system to 4.0 system?</p>
<p>For example, let's say there are two people: one person with a 3.6 in 4.0 GPA system and another person with a 3.87 in 4.3 GPA system.
Are they considered the same, though the person with a 3.87 out of 4.3 seems to have a higher GPA?</p>
<p>If they're considered the same, but then shouldn't the one with 3.87 in 4.3 system be given more credit, because I feel it's generally more difficult to get an A+ in A+ system than it is to get an A in A system.</p>
<p>I think they convert them. if they don,t just convert them yourself by turning every "A+" into an "A" on your transcript. I don't know if thats the way you do it, but it sounds right to me! If I did that, my GPA would go from 3.87 to 3.85. Boohoo.</p>
<p>I'm also on a 4.3 scale, which I hate. Almost 90% of my teachers don't even recognize A+ as a real grade, so you most likely will never get on during you college career anyways.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply, but how can your GPA go from 3.87 (out of 4.3) to 3.85(out of 4) if you did conversion? Shouldn't 3.87 in 4.3 system be converted to 3.6 in 4 system, because the GPA percentage average should stay the same (in this case, 90%).
Anyway, it's unfair. A+ should be given more credit.
If that's imposibble, then I want my university to change to 4.00 system.. :(</p>
<p>I am in my second year and I only got an A+ once, in some English class. All it did was boost my GPA up by .02 points, so if I dock that off my total, it brings me down to 3.85. No big deal to me, but whatever.</p>
<p>Its just as hard to get an A in a 4.0 system (at most schools) than it is at a school with a 4.3 scale. The only difference, as far as I know, is that at a school using a 4.3 scale, you can get an A+.</p>
<p>Generally, you are asked to give both your GPA and your GPA scale on a graduate school application. Sometimes you are asked to convert using a provided scale.</p>
<p>In any event, GPA is not usually so important as a number by itself -- graduate schools do not automatically admit someone with a 3.8 over someone with a 3.6 without seeing what context those GPAs are in.</p>
<p>Mollie makeas a good point about GPA's. Although they are important, they don't make or break your application unless you are rolling int with a 2.3 GPA. Beyond that, I would also imagine that admissions boards know that a 3.7 on a 4.3 scale is still an A- . At least I hope...</p>
<p>I seriously doubt they look at your GPA at all, they probably look at the courses you took and the grades you got into those courses in your system. Who cares if you have a 3.8 and some other guy has a 3.5 but in a 4.3 system. They are not looking to reward the guy who worked hardest for his grades, they are looking to see who is smarter they are not going to be screwing around with decimals to figure out if the A+ you got in your Art History class should be a 4.3 or a 4.0 when applying for a chemical engineering program.</p>
<p>Although it is true that the guy with a 3.8 doesn't have that much of an advantage over the dude that has a 3.5, it is patently false to say that admissions boards look for the "smartest applicants." Thats true at some of the truly elite programs in the nations where they are looking to find the next Nobel prize winner, but generally admissions boards want to see hard workers.</p>
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I am in my second year and I only got an A+ once, in some English class. All it did was boost my GPA up by .02 points, so if I dock that off my total, it brings me down to 3.85. No big deal to me, but whatever.
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<p>But aren't A+, A, A-, B+.. in 4.3 system counted as A, A-, B+, B in 4.0 system? I mean, 4.3(A+) is the max. in the 4.3 system, so if you divide whatever GPA you get by 4.3, you get a percentage. Because 3.87 out of 4.3 and 3.87 out of 4.0 yield different percentages, your 3.87 will turn out to be lower in actual percentage compared to that calculated from the same GPA in 4.0 system, right? (even if you don't add all the A+s you got into your GPA)</p>
<p>I'm not sure if my calculation was completely right, but the point I was trying to make is if I deduct my single A+ from my overall GPA, than it takes of about .02 from my GPA. Negligeable.</p>
<p>When it comes time to recalculate my GPA on a 4.0 scale, i will just do it like everyone else, namely count my grades individually and replace all my A+'s (of which I will probably only have one) with A's. Since an A in a 4.0 system is worht the same as in a 4.3 system, I don't see what difference it will make.</p>
<p>Ysk is saying that since an A in a 4.0 system is the highest grade you can get it should be equivalent to an A+ in a 4.3 system. Using that logic an A in a 4.3 system would be a A- in a 4.0 system and so on down the line. Converting it that way would drastically alter your cumulative GPA seeing as how everything would approximately be .3 to .7 less than you're giving it credit for. I, however, don't believe that this is the way it is done so no worries.</p>
<p>Just go on any schools website and check out their grading scheme, if you can find it. its always "A=4.00" ect.</p>
<p>Or go on Simon Frasiers website. its a Canaidna school, but they convert all grading systems to a 4.00 system. If you put in that you have a 3.85 in a 4.3 system, they convert it to a 3.85, I believe.</p>
<p>ysk1,the only difference between a 4.0 scale and a 4.3 scale is that a 97-100 is an A+ on a 4.3 scale where as it is still an A on a 4.0 scale. EVERYTHING else is the same. Therefore, if you have a 3.8 with a 4.3 scale then you will have the SAME GPA on a 4.0 if you received no A+'s (97-100's).</p>
<p>This is how all (maybe 1 or 2 in a thousand do it differently) 4.0 and 4.3 schools work.</p>
<p>red sox 7327: Thanks for your post. But I'm a little confused... If what you said is true, then will a person with a 3.8 in 4.3 be considered to have a same GPA as another person with a 3.8 in 4, both having a GPA percentage average of 95%? :confused: Also, if a 97-100 is an A+ on a 4.3 scale and still an A on a 4.0 scale, then will someone with a 4.0 in 4.3 system have a percentage of 96%? (But using a calculator to calculate the percentage of that, you get a 93%!)
I'm just sick of this. Why don't all the schools in the world use a universal GPA system? :(</p>
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<p>If both persons received no A+'s in their classes then their GPA's will be equivalent. If the kid who has the 4.3 scale had gotten a couple A+'s then his/her GPA would be a little lower on a 4.0 scale (We are talking like one hundredth of a point here). Don't get caught up over this. The only way in which these scales differ is when it comes to really high A's (97- 100).</p>
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both having a GPA percentage average of 95%? Also, if a 97-100 is an A+ on a 4.3 scale and still an A on a 4.0 scale, then will someone with a 4.0 in 4.3 system have a percentage of 96%? (But using a calculator to calculate the percentage of that, you get a 93%!)
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<p>GPA percentage has no actual meaning. It is just the number that you get when you divide your gpa by the max gpa. it is irrelevant, and does not correlate to anything. Think about it, if a 90 and a 92 both equate to a 3.66 then you have already lost precision. If you divide 3.66 by 4 you get 91+. So, you could get all grades of 90 and your "GPA percentage average" would be a 91+. It's trivial.</p>