4.0 students

<p>just cut back on the masturbating and you're good for a 4.0</p>

<p>depends on your instructors...
I can take the same 2 courses with different instructors and get a C for one and an A for another...</p>

<p>WarfareArtist- Why is that? I know the quality of professor matters but there shouldn't be such a big discrepancy as long as you show up to class, do your work, and study.</p>

<p>@jk_91</p>

<p>Oh, but there is. The difference in difficulty between professors at CCC teaching the same class can be extreme --this is why you will see a discrepancy in the amount of time required of 4.0 students to study in order to maintian their 4.0</p>

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<p>lol this thread is sooooooooo funny</p>

<p>Does the CC matter? (Sorry to bring in that topic into this discussion!) Is it harder to get a 4.0 at SMC than it is at College of the Desert?</p>

<p>Yes, professors matter a lot. Talk with other students about what profs are good and check ratemyprofessor.com!</p>

<p>I think 4.0 students are able to figure out what they need to do to get an A in the class and then do it: If it's a harder class, adjust your studying habits, etc.</p>

<p>Also: You must put studying before all else! This does not mean you can't have a social life, but if you are having a semester of hard classes you have to be willing to tell your friends to f off. So, in the end, you may end up masturbating MORE because you can't get in the time to see your significant other. It can be more time efficient to masturbate than to seek out and have sex with a partner, no?</p>

<p>Yeah, this is a good question. Is SMC harder to get good grades than other californian community colleges ?</p>

<p>I just read that the bio departement is pretty tough at SMC compared to other CCC.</p>

<p>I have also heard from some Bio students at SMC that their bio dep't is comparable to UCLA in terms of difficulty level. UCLA people meet with SMC people each semester and SMC has to conform to UCLA standards. </p>

<p>In terms of SMC being harder or easier, I think there are professors at SMC that are probably harder than at other colleges, but you can find a lot that are also really easy. Especially for the intro and freshman classes, some of those are so easy.</p>

<p>I've also heard several times that SOME classes/professors at SMC are much harder than at UCLA. I have 2 friends who took classes at UCLA during summer session, because they were "easier" there than equivalent classes at SMC.</p>

<p>This applies mostly to the science/engineering majors and not intro classes where you can choose among 100 profs. For some classes there might only be 1-2 professors who teach them.</p>

<p>Thanks Thomas and usdenick.</p>

<p>Hopefully, I don't want to major in bio or engineering but in economics.</p>

<p>Yep, finding out a partner and doing what you want do is much better than achieve on your own.</p>

<p>It a pretty idiosyncratic thing -- I found that 'easy' teachers were incredibly frustrating for me -- I am making a lot of sacrifices to be here and the last thing I want is to sit in class like a zombie while some jerk asks 'is this going to be on the test' fifty million times. I want an education, not just unit credits.</p>

<p>'Tough' teachers were actually much better for me -- I felt motivated, didn't have to prop my eyelids open with toothpicks, and found it was much easier to do well even with a heavy courseload since I didn't have to force the material on myself. When it comes naturally, it's easy.</p>

<p>I'll be honest, there's no way I was going to get an A in algebra without working much harder than I was willing to work for any algebra class.</p>

<p>Hm, that's a pretty interesting take. By tough teachers, do you mean teachers that students generally didn't like because they were "too hard"? Or were they good teachers who were helpful, but had a rigorous workload and challenging tests?</p>

<p>Well, teachers who don't care are the worst! If they aren't willing to answer your questions and tell you what you need to do in order to do well, then that sucks. But, I have only had one teacher like that and he ended up giving me an A anyway.</p>

<p>I think they were good teachers, and they definitely were very caring -- always staying after class to answer questions, always making themselves very available. Some of the comments on RateMyProfessors were like, "This jerk actually expects you to do all the required reading" -- which just kind of amazes me. I think by tough I mean teachers who are very professional -- they have a system, they've taught this class a million times, and they are not going to keep repeating all the same info that's on the syllabus after the third or fourth week.</p>

<p>I know that teachers who are new have to worry about course evaluations if they want to come back and be asked to teach more classes, or worry about intimidating students, and that's fine. I get that there are realities of that kind to deal with. But at some point, there does get to be such a thing as a stupid question. I think you have to strike a balance between wanting to be popular and liked by the students, and giving us a good education, even if that's sometimes a bit more work.</p>

<p>themovies makes a REALLY good point: The "easiest" classes are those that are well organized. You know what the professor expects and what you need to do to get an "a": it's usually all on the syllabus. They may require a lot of studying, but at least you know what you need to do. That gives you a certain peace of mind.</p>

<p>Haha. This year, I used ratemyprofessors to pick out all the easiest teachers. What ended up happening was that I would never study until the night before and still top all my classes. Oh, I'm so screwed once I transfer.</p>

<p>^ Ditto. </p>

<p>I think it's fine to pick out easy professors using ratemyprofessors.com; this is, after all, the easiest way to get a high GPA. It's just that you do need to pick out some of the tougher professors (not necessarily worse) so you can be prepared for the challenge once you transfer. This is especially important if you want to go to grad school because you need to perform well once you transfer and you'll only really have two years of a "real" college education under your belt.</p>

<p>this thread wins.</p>