7 students arrested in SAT cheating scheme

[ForeverAlone]

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Yes, there is a good deal of pressure to do well on these tests, but there really does not have to be. There are plenty of test optional colleges out there, including Loyola Maryland and Bowdoin (if I’m correct?) $2500 is a lot to pay for a good score, though not unreasonable considering that many courses cost up to $1500. In my opinion? Students should focus less on studying for these tests, and more on their GPA’s. GPA is an indicator of past achievement, and SAT/ACT is an indicator of intelligence and potential for success. If a student cannot obtain a high enough SAT score to gain admittance into the school of their choice, then they should probably be focusing on a less selective school, where class difficulty will better meet their aptitude.

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<p>To be honest, that doesn’t take any pressure off the SAT. Have you ever heard of Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Swarthmore, Amherst, MIT, CalTech, Stanford, and many, many others? More colleges require the SAT/ACT than those who do not. You might as well say, “Go to community college.” Did you not notice that maybe not all kids want to attend the two you mentioned?</p>

[HImom]

<p>Getting a high score won’t do a whole lot for an individual shooting for the schools you’ve listed. They have MANY kids with high scores, great grades and ECs. You need to stand out and do your own research as to why YOU deserve to go to the schools you think you belong at instead of putting down CCs or other places.</p>

<p>Cheating to get admitted can have the person’s admission OR degree rescinded. Is that really a risk worth taking that you’d want associated with yourself? Seems like a path that would be fraught with having to look over your shoulder all the time and make you ripe for potential blackmail. Just more to think about.</p>

<p>Studying for a test for weeks is not what the ACT/SAT is supposed to be about. It really is supposed to be about the years K-11 & how that has or has not prepared the individual for college. There are more test optional schools for those who care to research them instead of being rude to people who are trying to help you.</p>

[ForeverAlone]

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Getting a high score won’t do a whole lot for an individual shooting for the schools you’ve listed. They have MANY kids with high scores, great grades and ECs. You need to stand out and do your own research as to why YOU deserve to go to the schools you think you belong at instead of putting down CCs or other places.

You still don’t understand.
Okay, a person with a 1830 SAT still has a much lower chance than someone with a 2280 shooting for top tier schools. The 2280 will be at least considered, while the 1830 will be flat out rejected(assuming he isn’t a URM/legacy/recruited athlete).</p>

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Studying for a test for weeks is not what the ACT/SAT is supposed to be about. It really is supposed to be about the years K-11 & how that has or has not prepared the individual for college.

Again, you keep avoiding the idea of “innate genetic intelligence.” Some people don’t have to try as hard as others. That’s obviously a disadvantage. For example, I could’ve studied for hours endlessly during my childhood years, yet I still would never reach Einstein’s intellectual level.</p>

[bluebayou]

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Is it fair that some kids are genetically smarter than others?

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<p>Perhaps that is a question for Charles Darwin? Did you take AP Bio? Have you taken any bio?</p>

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Studying for a test for weeks is not what the ACT/SAT is supposed to be about.

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<p>Gotta disagree here, Himom. Even CB has gotten on the prep bandwagon by selling tests for practice. The ACT/SAT is all about learning how to take their test. No different than any other standardized test. SAT-M, for example, is primarily Algebra I and Geometry (plus a handful of All II problems). If the tests were supposed to be about K12 curriculum, and colleges cared about such things, they would require Subject Tests and drop SAT-1/ACT…</p>

[ForeverAlone]

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Perhaps that is a question for Charles Darwin? Did you take AP Bio? Have you taken any bio?

Took Honors Bio as a Freshman, now AP Bio as a senior.</p>

[donnykim]

<p>What’s the problem here? At least your SAT instructor wasn’t a former gang banger wanted for murder or kidnapped just because he wouldn’t resign a contract! LOL</p>

<p><a href=“http://rokdrop.com/2011/08/09/korean-american-murderer-operated-high-paying-hagwon-in-korea/[/url]”>http://rokdrop.com/2011/08/09/korean-american-murderer-operated-high-paying-hagwon-in-korea/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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[aldfig0]

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@ForeverAlone

Again, you keep avoiding the idea of “innate genetic intelligence.” Some people don’t have to try as hard as others. That’s obviously a disadvantage. For example, I could’ve studied for hours endlessly during my childhood years, yet I still would never reach Einstein’s intellectual level.

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<p>Then why do you try to avoid the idea that “that’s life, deal with it?” Your 27 is still far above what most people get on the ACT. The admissions officers at MIT/Caltech/etc want students that can handle their rigorous course load. It’s not going to be fun finding out that your test results compared to the rest of the class are always in the bottom 10th percentile.</p>

[oliviabartel]

<p>I feel like it makes more sense to save your money and take your SAT yourself, trust your own intelligence. If I were in the test takers position I’d be a Robin Hood of sorts and con them knowing that they were cheating to give them what they deserve. </p>

<p>I would not trust anyone to take my SAT for me. Even if they did get great scores when they took it on their own and were smart I could never apply to college knowing that I cheated like that…</p>

[EternalSnow]

<p>ForeverAlone,
Maybe your way of studying was wrong… people have different methods of studying that suits them. maybe you should try other studying methods instead of the one that you’re using.
Also, why do you MUST go to a top tier school? Just because of the name? Name value could be a big thing but it might not mean anything in the end. Name value can help you to certain extent, however, in the end, it all comes down to what you really made out of yourself rather than the name. There are many known people who are from top top school but there are also many many known people who are not from a top top school such as Harvard. Have you ever heard of Dean Kamen? He invented the auto wheelchair and he’s a billionaire. He is also the founder of FIRST organization, which inspires over 100k+ people in the world every year. Guess what college he graduated from. </p>

<p>He did not graduate from a college. He was a drop-out from Worcester Polytechnic Institute.
So what i am trying to tell you is that even if you don’t get into all the ivy leagues, that’s fine. You tried your best and that’s something to be praised about. So don’t worry about it and be proud of your score. Be proud of your hard work.</p>

<p>+sorry if my grammar is off… English is my second language <.<<</p>

[EternalSnow]

<p>@donnykim
why must those things happen in korea… so sad :(</p>

[amberag16]

<p>I looked the kids up and a few of them are still accessing facebook… hmmmm</p>

[beach]

<p>bchan1 your arrogance is outrageous.</p>