<p>I recently received an 800 on the SAT II Chemistry Subject Test. Does this mean that I will most likely get a 5 on the AP Exam? What is the likelihood of getting a 5? After taking the AP exam in May, I felt somewhat confident about the multiple choice section, but I think I messed up on a bunch of the free response questions.</p>
<p>Any advice would be much appreciated. :)</p>
<p>There’s obviously a great possibility. 
But this year’s test was notably easy…hopefully the curve isn’t messed up too much. 
A low FRQ score might hurt you.</p>
<p>I don’t think they’re really comparable. They cover different topics. I think the AP goes more in depth but it’s probably easier to score a 5 than an 800 percentile/probability-wise (if that even makes sense haha). I think there’s a good chance though that if you knew ALL of the material on the SAT that you knew enough of the AP to get a 5.</p>
<p>Yes, I found that this year’s AP was notoriously easy as well >.<. Especially the reactions question. I still hope I got a 5 but with a test that easy the curve will probably be really bad.</p>
<p>Hmm yeah that’s what I was thinking too… I really hope the curve isn’t TOO bad! </p>
<p>I guess we just have to wait and see what we get in July-ish. :-/</p>
<p>Well, you should. Now, before people dispute me telling me it’s different, it is, but it really isn’t.</p>
<p>The material might be slightly different, but it’s still chemistry, and if you know enough chemistry to get an 800, it should be enough to get a 5. Why?</p>
<p>An 800 is 93%ile-ish. Who takes subject tests? You’ve got to be an idiot if you’re taking a subject test after regular chemistry or honors chemistry (Unless you’re ungodly smart, and that makes up for it). Therefore, most people take it after AP tests. Now, back to the question, who takes subject tests?</p>
<p>Ivy League or something close.</p>
<p>A lot of people take AP courses, not nearly as many apply to IVYs and get in. 93% means you beat 93% of the smartest people out there (with a few outliers) in the particular subject.</p>
<p>What am I saying?</p>
<p>Around 18,000 people this year will get 5s (or around 18%). No where near as many will get 800s, so you should get a 5. </p>
<p>Of course, unless you just f***ed something up or are the outlier.</p>
<p>Ps. It’s sad that I got my subject tests earlier than my AP tests and I took my subject tests 1 month afterwards.</p>
<p>Wait, you knew you messed up on the FRQs, well that might be a little different because that means that you got unlucky.</p>
<p>Well, it’s likely that you receive a 5, but getting an 800 does not really show a high chance of it though. 800 SAT II Chemistry just most likely show that you did well on the MC.</p>
<p>@Rockychen, I got a 760 after honors chem and got between 780 and 800 on a lot of the practice tests I did; I think I just made some stupid mistakes on the real test.</p>
<p>Yeah I see what you guys are saying. I agree with jerrry4445 - doing well on the SAT IIs really just means that you probably did well on the MC section of the AP exam. Since the free response section was my main problem, there’s isn’t an extremely clear correlation between the two tests. However, using RockyChen’s stats, getting a 5 after getting an 800 is likely. </p>
<p>I don’t think I messed up an entire question on the FR though… just a couple of the parts of 1/2 of the questions. I accidentally switched two of the parts of one question (like I did 1b before 1a) because my eyes just weren’t working. But I switched the letters and wrote a small note on the side – hope they read it!!</p>
<p>Pretty dumb, I know. So my first question answer sheet basically looked like this:
b) Answer corresponding with b
a) Answer corresponding with a
c) …
d) …
e) …
etc…</p>
<p>After realizing I messed up like that, it took me a good 5-10 minutes to recover, realize my mistake, and quickly fix it. I guess that just freaked out my nerves for the next couple. Again, guess we’ll just have to wait a few more weeks. :-/</p>
<p>I believe the graders try to give credit whenever possible, so I don’t think it will hurt you. </p>
<p>As for nervousness? </p>
<p>DON’T worry about it at all. I had to use the bathroom 5 times during the test (TMI? Sorry).</p>
<p>Let’s hope so! </p>
<p>Haha perhaps just a BIT too much lol. Yeah idk I’m not really nervous during tests, but I think I practiced a lot of MC stuff, but not enough timed FR. I finished in time, but some questions were a little tight. I may have been writing too much anyway. But yeah that mess-up set the tempo of the FR pretty offbeat (wow that was a lame analogy)… :)</p>
<p>There isn’t that much of a correlation. I did comparably worse on SAT2 (mid 700’s) than I did on AP (5)</p>
<p>But you only need a 60% to get a 5, whereas SAT2’s are obviously more demanding in accuracy. Perhaps I do better on longer tests, then.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t say that’s comparatively worse. I would say that’s comparatively equal.</p>
<p>750 on SAT II Chemistry Exam.
5 on AP Chemistry Exam.</p>
<p>I say if you get a 5, you should expect 700+ on SAT II Chemistry. Besides, the laboratory questions are what got me on the subject test, and apparently, you don’t need to know much about laboratory to get a 5 on the exam.</p>
<p>“I say if you get a 5, you should expect 700+ on SAT II Chemistry.”</p>
<p>Let’s hope that statement is reversible. So anxious to get the scores in mid-July!!</p>
<p>Well the AP Exam is harder than the SAT II but there is a great possibility that you will receive a 5.</p>
<p>I received both an 800 on the SAT II and a 5 on the AP. </p>
<p>I think somebody with an 800 on the SAT II should be very confident that they’ll receive a 5 on the AP test. Getting a 4 on AP Chem would mean that there are major flaws in a person’s understanding of the material, because there is such an enormous margin for error on that test. Even some of the people who get 5’s don’t properly know the material. On the other hand, if a person doesn’t fully understand the material, he or she probably wouldn’t get an 800 on the SAT II, because even the slightest mistakes affect the overall score. I believe that it takes a solid knowledge base in chemistry to get even a 750 on the SAT II. I would expect somebody with an 800 to know the answers to enough of the obscure questions on the AP to get a 5. </p>
<p>I certainly had to work much harder to ensure my 800 than I did to get a 5.</p>
<p>I agree. Those were similar to my initial thoughts too. Just wanted to see what others thought about the subject from their experiences. </p>
<p>Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. Guess I’ll just have to wait a couple more weeks to find out for sure!</p>
<p>If you want to empower Collegeboard’s influence and provide those money hogging jerks with more money (even though they’re “nonprofit”), you can contribute to the cause by “donating” $8 to their foundation by calling right now. They probably have your AP scores ready by now (they said by July 1st).</p>
<p>Haha yeah i read that on their site lol. To preserve my dignity, I will not acquiesce to the money-hoarder known as CollegeBoard. I care, but I can wait. :)</p>