8th Grader URGENT!!

<p>-You are doing great (Latin, Spanish, English, math…) and you are a motivated student and discovered CC!
-Be proud of your parents they want the best for you. Be proud of your accomplishments.</p>

<p>-Learn and enjoy the languages you want to learn, it could help in your future goals. Why not?
-If you enjoy reading, writing and learning… keep up the good work. Why not?
-Don’t stress about your goals…let discover them gradually.</p>

<p>Don’t stop…if you want to persevere in your goals. If your parents are encouraging you and you like to learn that is wonderful.</p>

<p>Keep doing a fantastic job. Remember that knowledge is the “expertise, and skills acquired by a person through experience or education.”</p>

<p>If you want to think in Harvard…that’s fine too. Why not?
At the end of the day you are the one that will apply to the university that you want to attend…probably Harvard, but at that time if you have acquired knowledge and skills you mentioned, while enjoying it, that is something nobody can take from you whatever school you apply. Best wishes!</p>

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<p>Not a bragger, eh? I’d suggest focusing more on what you love to do and getting good grades than “how to get into Harvard.” If you do that right (especially the “what you love to do”…which is granted very hard), you will have a great chance of getting into Harvard. What’s unfortunate is that your PARENTS not YOU want you to go to Harvard.</p>

<p>Please tell me this is a joke topic…</p>

<p>Why should it be a joke? Why not enjoy and appreciate the fact that an 8th grader is interested in improvement and programming what he will learn next? </p>

<p>Instead of having him playing video games all day, watching tv or being with the wrong crowd of youngster consuming drugs or …waisting his time in general…the fact that he wants to learn languages and thinking in his future path is much better!</p>

<p>^You’re right, and I am so glad no one on this forum has called this wonderful, stereotypical student a ■■■■■ (OOPS).</p>

<p>chillchillchill. this is a noble goal and you are obviously a great student (those scores are amazing for an eighth grader), but CC is a waste of your time at this point. find passions and get off this website ASAP.</p>

<p>Lol 10char</p>

<p>ivyluvr, getting into harvard isn’t the end all, but I don’t agree with most of the above posters. You really don’t want to wake up junior year only to realize you’re screwed for all the top colleges.</p>

<p>Anyways, several guidelines:

  1. don’t get too caught up with grades. It’s better to have a 3.9 and prestigious awards than a 4.0
  2. standardized testing scores don’t matter too much once you break 2300 or so.
  3. keep awards in perspective. schoolwide/regional things don’t matter that much. Of course, it’s better than nothing, but you’d want to build a stronger profile. I’m not too knowledgeable on humanities awards, but there are several math/science maths you can take.
    a. contest math. You’d want to make USAMO, but of course further is even better. This is probably the hardest one, as it takes alot of innate ability. Most of us were getting 800 on sat math back in middle school, so this might not be good for you
    b. usabo/usnco/usapho/usaco: These are the most prestigious science competitions. Just pick one that you find attractive and work at it. Don’t fall into the trap of expecting classes to teach you anything though. You would want to qualify for the camp. Biology is probably the easiest thinking-wise: you just need to memorize a couple textbooks cover to cover. I think chemistry is the easiest overall, as there is alot less knowledge than biology, and all the computations are easy. Physics can be intimidating, but in the end it just comes down to memorizing formulas, copious amounts of algebra, and lots of practice problems. I’m not familiar with computer science, but you can look into it yourself
    c. research: Intel and Siemens are the big names here. This is probably the riskiest path, as research is time consuming and the awards have an element of chance. Still, alot of people I know do math/other stuff during the school year, and just work in a lab over the summer.
    If you can get any of the above, you’ll have a solid resume. It won’t guarantee admission to harvard, but it will help alot.<br>
  4. become friends with (not necessarily suck up to) a math/science teacher, a humanities teacher, and your college counselor. Harvard values “personality” (which they deduce based on your interview and your recs) just as much as ECs.</p>

<p>@ivyluvr its not so urgent, take your time, enjoy it.
I’m around your age but I only already know a bit about all these schools and am interested because of my older brother who is going through this process.
Eventually the right school will call your name and you will get to attend.
Just keep doing the things that you are passionate about, and trying hard in everything you do.</p>

<p>“I do not understand you’re reply.”</p>

<p>“Sorry to late- already very worried. Never to early to start.”</p>

<p>The first thing you can do is work on your grammar. Just sayin’.</p>

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<p>It’s pretty controversial, but my math friends and I unconsciously follow alot of the advice. In my opinion, it’s the best book out there on college admissions.</p>

<p>Here is some good general advice:</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Find something you really enjoy doing outside of academic work. It could be in school or outside of school, classically “prestigious” or not; all that matters is that you really enjoy it. If you truly enjoy the activity and can write well, you’re passion will be easily evident in your essays</p></li>
<li><p>Be nice to your teachers! Participate in class, do your work well, say “hi” or “goodbye” whenever appropriate, maybe make them cards for the holidays. A surprisingly (and depressingly) high number of smart students sit in class totally silent, and their teachers know nothing of them. If you end up befriending your teachers, especially from your freshman year, they’ll write you nice letters</p></li>
<li><p>Standardized tests:
a) Keep them in perspective. Certainly don’t retake them obsessively, since schools are looking to see how good / intelligent of a student you are (not how high you can score by some arbitrary benchmark)
b) But diversify your tests. I took hella subject tests and an independent study AP, and they showed how I was good in a number of subject fields</p></li>
<li><p>Keep grades in perspective, etc.</p></li>
<li><p>Don’t get your heart set on a particular school, especially one like Harvard</p></li>
<li><p>Remember that you’ll be fine</p></li>
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<p>@ MeSsIah: I was reading one of the reviews, and a reviewer commented that, "I guarantee you, NO high school student is “Conducting science research to end cancer.” " </p>

<p>I laughed. This person obviously has no idea what kind of student applies to the Ivy league.</p>

<p>@Clam:</p>

<p>Though it isn’t a requirement. Plenty of “ordinary” high school students still get in, since, frankly, there aren’t too many kids (numerically) curing cancer</p>

<p>Well, you can add me to the </p>

<p>8th grade and that’s your SAT score? You need to step it up bud.</p>

<p>That book is ridiculous. I was flipping through the section on mathematical achievement (contest math, specifically), and I saw references to many contests that I am very familiar with. The author introduced the AMC series giving a good overview (approx. 500k AMC takers, 15000 AIME takers, 500 USAMOers, 50 MOPpers, and 6 IMOers). Then she began the next paragraph with “By the time your child reaches MOSP…” and I just about exploded. That doesn’t just happen. Even with lots of money and amazing teachers, you can’t teach aptitude on that level.</p>

<p>I also have problems with anyone who says a kid should study Attic Tragedy or Biblical Greek in order to get into college. Also, last time I checked, summer was created to keep kids from having to be in school year round. Summer vacation should not be an extension of the school year. That just burns kids out.</p>

<p>I think I may be attacking too much, though. I attend a college prep school where students can easily find out about plenty of opportunities in whatever field they have interest, but I guess this book is targeted at parents of students in places where these opportunities are not as well-known. Then again, of all the summer activities and contests I’ve seen mentioned in this book, every single one of them can easily be found online with a general search for summer activities or extracurricular pursuits. </p>

<p>It shouldn’t be a parent’s goal to get their kid into a top university solely because they want their kid to get into a top university.</p>

<p>Alright, when I was in 8th grade, my sister was applying to her undergraduate schools so unsurprisingly, I got deeply involved in the college process. From this experience I understood what I had to do to get into a good school. </p>

<p>Freshman year I didn’t slack off, was involved in many extracurriculars, and ended up getting straight As but I wasn’t constantly thinking about college. Yes, I used it as a motivator, but ultimately, the reason why I did well in my classes was because I enjoyed them. Additionally, I wasn’t constantly hunched over a pile of books. I would eat with my friends in the caf, hang out in the student center during free periods, and on weekends, hung out with friends. Basically, I lived life. As a senior now (who has gotten accepted into Amherst College, Georgetown, Notre Dame, and BC) I worked hard in school but I mostly remember the amazing, memorable times I spent with my friends and I wouldn’t trade them for anything else. Use Harvard as a motivator but don’t obsesss about it. If my high school memories just consisted of me studying for tests, these last 4 years would have been very unfulfilling. Lastly, go to a college that fits you the best. Yes, I applied to Harvard, but if I did not get accepted I wouldn’t be very disappointed because Amherst embodies everything I have been looking for in a college. Go to a college that feeds your mind and soul.</p>

<p>If this post is serious, then I would ask if your parents are educated themselves, or not. Did they go to college, and where?</p>

<p>The problem here appears to be your parents, not you, though the problem is infecting you, so to speak.</p>

<p>Obsession with Harvard is more common among people who are not informed about colleges that are available for bright kids, and also common among people for whom their kids are sort of trophies. In other words, parents who gain prestige through their kids. </p>

<p>Not to get into stereotypes, but there are a lot of Asian tour groups moving through Harvard: I realize that in certain countries, Harvard is of great interest. Perhaps your parents were raised in that culture-?</p>

<p>Your parents may want to tell friends and relatives that their child is going to Harvard, or they believe, falsely, that such a school is the only road to success for you.</p>

<p>I honestly suggest somehow getting someone in a position of respect and authority to talk with your parents before this goes any farther. They could talk with a private college counselor, a school guidance counselor (if a good one), or even a mental health counselor.</p>

<p>They need to learn about other schools, and, if they won’t listen, then you need to do that for yourself. You could go to a library and get books on colleges, such as “Beyond the Ivies,” “Colleges that Change Lives,” “Cool Colleges,” “Creative Colleges” and so on. Also, honors colleges at state schools are often excellent, depending on what state you are in. Sometimes it is good to be in a place where you can really shine.</p>

<p>Usually, I would write the same things that others have written, about relaxing and enjoying high school, finding your interests naturally, and not living your life in order to get into a school. This is a form of spiritual sickness (tell you parents this!).</p>

<p>I would also tell you to put college out of your mind for a few years.</p>

<p>But in this situation, since you and your family are already obsessed with college, specifically Harvard, I think you actually need to explore the subject MORE. Then, let it go for awhile.</p>

<p>At first glance this seemed like a mental health issue, but it is clearly a matter of family culture, and counseling might help with that. Of course your parents love you and want the best for you, but maybe they could be persuaded to let go of this obsession for a few years, to help you be more relaxed.</p>

<p>You will crash and burn with this kind of pressure. A surprising number of Harvard students have mental health problems, probably from living the way you are. I have read that those who “dream” for years of getting in, get very depressed once there, because the goal was getting in, not benefiting once there. Once in, life feels empty.</p>

<p>I have a child at Harvard. Believe me, it’s just a school. Brick buildings, professors, students. Yes, courses are great, many interesting students. It is big, and you are on your own more than at some other colleges, such as smaller liberal arts colleges. My child was not terribly anxious to go there, long story, but she is relatively happy there, just as she would have been in many places.</p>

<p>There are many, many good schools out there and getting fixed on one, especially one that is so randomly selective, is not a good idea at all. The best way to prepare yourself for college admissions is to stop worrying and find other schools besides Harvard, that could make you happy. Apply to Harvard if you like, but not with desperation, and with other good options.</p>

<p>if its your parents dream… then you should think about it twice. It should be your dream as well. As youwillsee1 said. Dont mold yourself into someone you are not. try to find who you are, and you will be happy.</p>