<p>yeah..I'm probably going to end up getting sex-lienated from my dorm by my roommate next year. Then I'll have no where to go and end up sleeping with the hobos...gosh I hope that doesn't happen.</p>
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But generally, especially outside of UCLA's honors college, wouldn't you say that that minor edge generally favors Berkeley?
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<p>Yes. But I think that a lot of Cal undergrads try way way too hard to ride on the coattails of the graduate programs, as if it somehow changes the fact that schools with dismal (comparatively speaking) graduate programs are soundly trouncing Cal in undergrad.</p>
<p>Haha......of course I misspelled it on purpose. ;)</p>
<p>(SORRY twilightzer0!!)</p>
<p>Btw, the word is "sexile." I'm going to get sexiled by my roommate.</p>
<p>o lol yeah. =] I was looking for that word. tkx</p>
<p>"But I think that a lot of Cal undergrads try way way too hard to ride on the coattails of the graduate programs"</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean by "try way way too hard to ride..."</p>
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What exactly do you mean by "try way way too hard to ride..."
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<p>Cal students believe their undergraduate should be ranked much higher because Cal has an excellent graduate school.</p>
<p>Dyip10, please don't presume to know what Berkeley students think.</p>
<p>I'm not presuming anything, I'm answering the question of the poster above me.</p>
<p>Of course you're presuming. You're presuming to know what Cal students believe, which you don't.</p>
<p>What exactly do you mean by "try way way too hard to ride..."</p>
<p>If I'm presuming anything it's what UCLAri is thinking.</p>
<p>If you are speaking for UCLAri, then state that, otherwise you are "presuming" to know what Cal students believe, as your above post states. This isn't some big linguistic battle, you spoke for me and I'm telling you not to.</p>
<p>Well I quoted "What exactly do you mean by "try way way too hard to ride..."</p>
<p>So I assumed that was understood. Take it easy.</p>
<p>This is funny. Are you trying to be obtuse?</p>
<p>I don't understand what you're saying</p>
<p>That's painfully obvious.</p>
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The difference between UCLA and Cal for undergrad are very very minor. Hell, just look at admit rates to top grad schools. They're almost identical. For undergrad, there's really no real huge gap.
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<p>Depends on the program. Really. It really does. But I guess generally speaking, perhaps it's small.</p>
<p>What stat's have you?</p>
<p>GandS,</p>
<p>Calm down buddy, you're getting on dyip's case for no reason at all. </p>
<p>Anyway, I meant exactly what I said. Cal students, in my experience try to ride on the coattails of the graduate program quality. So do UCLA students and Michigan students, but Cal students seem to see this as an excellent opportunity to show just how much better Cal is than UCLA at the undergrad level.</p>
<p>I didn't think that "ride on coattails" was that hard of a phrase to figure out...</p>
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Depends on the program. Really. It really does. But I guess generally speaking, perhaps it's small.</p>
<p>What stat's have you?
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<p>Of course. I suspect that Cal students do a bit better at top PhD programs. But if you look at law school and med school admissions, for the most part they're very very similar. For example, look at HLS, the holy grail of law schools. UCLA and Cal both have just about the same number there, and then there's a large drop for UCSD.</p>
<p>I meant that the quality of the undergraduate education depends on the program. I'd pick Berkeley English over UCLA English any day of the week, for instance.</p>
<p>See, I think undergrad is a little more forgiving. For example, while I wouldn't pick Dartmouth for poli sci grad, I'd pick Dartmouth for undergrad over Cal or UCLA in most cases, despite the program being less prestigious than both UCLA and Cal.</p>