A few questions

<p>rocket, so again are you telling me that the Princeton ChE Students that are coming out of the school now and in the past are subpar, even though they were admitted to one of the most selective schools in the country, were taught by professors from the top ChE schools in the country and received a degree in one of the top ChE departments in the country, a department that has ranked between one and ten in at least the last 40 years and is now at #6 in the country?</p>

<p>and that ChE students from Stanford, MIT and CalTech are way over the Princeton ChE’s students head in ability?</p>

<p>and are you really saying that Stanford, MIT and CalTech will prepare their ChE students better than Princeton, after reviewing all that I have said above?</p>

<p>Is this what you are saying?</p>

<p>He has not once said that Princeton engineering is subpar…</p>

<p>rocket, why are you posting Harvey Mudd’s Physics Department Faculty count?</p>

<p>Is it that you wanted to compare the HM Physics department with Princeton’s Physics Department?</p>

<p>is this what you want to do?</p>

<p>I thought that we were discussing engineering departments?</p>

<p>What me and rocket are saying is that you should have seek non engineer degree at Princeton. When you wanna pursue engineer degree for chemE, its better to go to MIT, Caltech or Stanford for your engineer degree. Although princeton might have had strong chemE degree back than but it ain’t no MIT, Caltech, or Stanford when it comes to engineer degree. Sorry but this is an inevitable truth that you have to live with for the rest of your life for choosing princeton for engineer degree. You want to believe that you had great engineer program, but let’s say you just got your degree from Princeton and compete for chemE job against MIT, Caltech, or Stanford student, employee will have different perspective since for instance, consulting companies look for engineer brand name when it comes to hire an engineer. Better known engineer program degree, higher chance for job. “I got my Chemical Engineer degree from MIT” vs “I got my Chemical Engineer degree from Princeton”… come on.</p>

<p>A lawyer who graduated from WakeForest way back when the school was not first tier school are now enjoying his school’s recognition for excellence even though he might not had the great law school education back than. What degree you got from a school matters whether you like it or not. Engineer degree? Princeton is not MIT. Sorry to break it to ya.</p>

<p>CSmajor, is it that tough to understand that in the ChE area, a Princeton ChE is as stong as an MIT ChE?</p>

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<p>johnadams12,
i’m going to bring this question to our professional engineering recruiter. he has 30 years of experience finding the best engineers in the US. i can provide you his credentials privately, if necessary. i will ask him if he would rather hire a mit chemE or princeton chemE.</p>

<p>rocketDA, and while you are add it, please show him this also from you. I would like to see what his reaction would be to your comments below:</p>

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<p>Well JohnAdams12, would you recommend Princeton engineer program over MIT or Stanford when a high school student firmly decided on engineer degree and have to choose between Princeton, MIT or Stanford?</p>

<p>I wouldn’t say to that extreme comment like rocketDA said but for engineer degree, Princeton is not the school for it.</p>

<p>dude, you are crazy.</p>

<p>CSmajor5 - I was accepted to all 3 and UC Berkeley and chose Princeton ChE.</p>

<p>For others MIT might be better and yet for others, Stanford. I spent a couple of years at Stanford in graduate school and it is a great school. My roomate at Stanford was an MIT undergraduate. He truly loved MIT, so I know a little about that.</p>

<p>You can’t lose between these schools, but I would like to emphasize Princeton’s commitment to undergraduates, as it is widely known as the best undergraduate school in the country.</p>

<p>Currently in the area of cross admits, MIT and Princeton are about even, and I would imagine that most of those are engineers or in the areas of Physics, Math and Economics - so obviously there are plenty of students that have chosen and continue to chose Princeton Engineering over MIT Engineering.</p>

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<p>Well I doubt I can convince someone so zealous to uphold princeton’s reputation for engineer program. I don’t wanna waste time to make a list of facts about MIT in order to prove that Princeton and MIT is not even in engineer program and outcome of one’s career. </p>

<p>JohnAdams12 keep your pride for having an engineer degree from Ivy league. You are probably be the only person who will recommend princeton engineer degree for his/her Ivy league tag over MIT.</p>

<p>CSmajor5, is it that tough to comprehend that every year there are dozens of students that take Princeton over MIT for undergraduate school?</p>

<p>and hate to disappoint you, but my Princeton ChE degree is the least prestigious of my degrees.</p>

<p>Good luck to you at GeorgiaTech though, some football team last year eh?</p>

<p>LETS GO YELLOWJACKETS!</p>

<p>Harvey Mudd College Engineering Department Faculty</p>

<p>Degrees obtained from the following universities*:</p>

<p>Stanford - 3
Minnesota - 2
MIT - 1
UCSB - 1
Rutgers - 1
Oklahoma - 1</p>

<p>*note: as per HMC website</p>

<p>Dude seriously drop it. Rose hulman and harvey mudd is known for their undergraduate engineer program. These two undergraduate program is known for rigorous curriculum and rival that of MIT/Caltech engineer program…</p>

<p>Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, Princeton can be chosen over MIT for a number of reasons, mostly atmosphere and and other social aspects. A lot of people aren’t the hardcore nerd type and therefore do not want to be with other hardcore nerd types, so they choose Princeton, on the assumption that they’re more well rounded in that area.</p>

<p>However, MIT is still better than Princeton, there’s no way to argue that. Doesn’t matter what kind of excuse you can come up with, in the end, they are indeed better.</p>

<p>hadsed, when you make a comment like this, do you mean in “Engineering” or in all other areas?</p>

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<p>I am definitely referring to engineering. I can’t speak for sciences since I’ve done no research and know nothing of it. From what I’ve heard about Princeton and what’s been said in this thread, it seems that Princeton has stellar science and math departments so it may be that they rival MIT in those areas.</p>

<p>However, the topic of the entire thread has been engineering.</p>

<p>hadsed, oh…ok, thanks </p>

<p>that is what I thought</p>

<p>hadsed, so when you say this:</p>

<p>" I can’t speak for sciences since I’ve done no research and know nothing of it"</p>

<p>I assume that you have done your research into chemical engineering such that you can make a statement such as this about Princeton and MIT in ChE:</p>

<p>“However, MIT is still better than Princeton, there’s no way to argue that. Doesn’t matter what kind of excuse you can come up with, in the end, they are indeed better”</p>

<p>John,</p>

<p>Could you at least try to keep your rebuttals in a single post each time instead of splitting it into several. It definitely gets a little annoying having several posts to read instead of one, and it is generally just good forum etiquette.</p>