<p>i was recently talking to a friend of mine, who is currently a freshman at a top-notch college in New York. I ask her what she wrote her college essay on, and she inform that she plagiarize her essay in the sense that she use her best friend's old draft (that the friend was going to discard it anyway) and send it off to colleges. she got into some good schoolswith that essay too. are kids these days getting people to write essays for them because getting away with it isnt that hard (according to her)</p>
<p>This is just a sample of what you will find in real life. Some people are honorable, work hard, and dedicate themselves to the greater good - others are lazy, cheats, ride on the coat tails of family and friends and expect the world to be given to them. </p>
<p>You will find it in college, business, politics, religion, and your local community.</p>
<p>Take after whichever you choose; the choice is yours. Life is not fair, but there are invaluable lessons to learn which have ramification far beyond undergrad.</p>
<p>i think its just sad. its even sadder that she got away with it. i know there are kids who copy their essays online and they still get away with it too! outrageous!!</p>
<p>what gets me past dealing with jerks like that is KARMA,,,,someday, something is gonna get them....</p>
<p>for her friend to share, blech, and to take pride and sharing that she got away with it, double blech</p>
<p>Each one of must do what we think is RIGHT regardless of what anyone else does. I get upset when others cheat, but I calm down and let it not bother me. We should not be swayed what everyone else does.
"In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place." - Mahatma Gandhi</p>
<p>Well, I know someone who works at Stanford's Undergrad Admissions and he said they caught two people last year submitting the same essay- the only difference was the name of the war. One was already admitted SCEA and the other applied regular deciscion. He said that if they didn't submit such essays they would have been admitted.</p>
<p>Revoked and rejected.</p>
<p>umm i dont see anything THAT wrong with your friend. You guys are overreacting</p>
<p>she basically used an essay her friend deemed unsuitable for the school. The essay had little to anything to do with the reason she got into the school most likely. If anything it probably hurt her chances. It's not like she copied anything, she just used an essay her friend wrote for her. Although it is immoral, its not to the extent that you guys think.</p>
<p>It's as bad as copying. She passed the work of another off as her own. Just because she had permission doesn't make it less immoral.</p>
<p>I don't see why people are so mad at cheaters -- sure, cheating's immoral, but it's not like one cheater will hurt you unless you happen to be the best student a college's waitlisted, which is unlikely. People can cheat, but it won't affect MY grades or chances of admission. Thus I really don't care too much...</p>
<p>Cheating will someday come back to haunt them. I definitely believe in tit for tat. </p>
<p>However, this case is far better than most. Her best friend had given her the essay that she was not going to use with her full permission. It not like it would be the best written essay or one that would really describe the person. So she has decided to accept the consequences by taking the essay. Also it is not like a test where there are set answers, it's just misfit college essay.
I think people are overreacting in this case. You should see what some people in this country get away with.</p>
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Each one of must do what we think is RIGHT regardless of what anyone else does. I get upset when others cheat, but I calm down and let it not bother me. We should not be swayed what everyone else does.
"In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place." - Mahatma Gandhi
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<p>Hmhh, let me think; probably because i am not a Mahatma(Saint)?:rolleyes:
Guys i worked my asses off volunteering for 3 years-sometimes continuously for 10 hrs/day. Now i see my classmate's buying certificates to show that they have done Community Service. Some are even buying college essays from web sites.
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<p>Karma, for sure. When they would be 85 years old their degree would be rescinded.</p>
<p>Hey if someone cheats, then cheat better if you care sooooo much. It's not like you all haven't done similar stuff before so I don't know why people are holding such hissy fits about this.</p>
<p>I could never plagarize a college essay. Not only is it wrong, but the idea of getting caught is way too scary.</p>
<p>Now that I agree with.</p>
<p>The fact that it doesn't directly affect me is irrelevent. The rest of us (presumably) work hard to create and eloquent and accurate representation of ourselves and may get rejected. This girl uses somebody else's paper and is accepted. Fair? No. It's not something to be apathetic about.</p>
<p>yes, when you cheat, you take a huge risk because you may or may not get caught. but the idea of getting caught is just beyond scary because you risk getting rejected.</p>
<p>i wonder if things are so advanced these days, why are kids even getting away with plagiarizing essays from online? funny.</p>
<p>It's also a missed opportunity. The essay is the one chance you get to let the admissions committee see YOU. Whatever the topic- your love of the kazoo, that challenging hurdle you overcame, the quirky way you think, the passion you expended on a project, the connection you made with another person, the dreams you focused on- how can that come through in another person's essay? </p>
<p>There's something very sad about a kid who could be academically qualified to get into a particular college, feeling so insecure and deciding that there is nothing worth telling the admissions committee about his/herself. Your essay should come from the heart.</p>
<p>There is also the question of, how well will that person perform in their courses in a demanding college, if they are already plagiarizing?</p>
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i was recently talking to a friend of mine, who is currently a freshman at a top-notch college in New York. I ask her what she wrote her college essay on, and she inform that she plagiarize her essay in the sense that she use her best friend's old draft (that the friend was going to discard it anyway) and send it off to colleges. she got into some good schoolswith that essay too. are kids these days getting people to write essays for them because getting away with it isnt that hard (according to her)'</p>
<p>After I got over feeling infuriated that someone would get away with doing that, I felt sorry for the person who did it because they'll always wonder if they would have gotten in if they had sent their own work in.</p>
<p>Why do you care so much? It's not like permission wasn't granted for the person to do it.</p>
<p>Then again I'd feel better knowing I got in because the colleges liked ME, not someone else.</p>
<p>I care a lot for the reason that it is not right for a few to use cheating to beat others for limited admission spots. Would you care if someone robs you? If yes, why?</p>
<p>As far as permission thing goes, it is not a factor. Just like if the teacher gives a take home exam assuming that students work independently, you should not copy from your friend who is 'permitting' you.</p>