A good article in the Atlantic on the problems at Reed and the Hum 101 protests

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/11/the-surprising-revolt-at-reed/544682/

While much of this is an all too familiar recitation of the “do what I want or you are a racist” tactics of campus protesters, this is the first somewhat in depth treatment I have seen of a general push back from the student body against the crazy left. Some of the quotes from professors and upper class students, about the general fear of opposing the agenda of the protesters and others warning the freshmen who were leading the push back not to do so, are chilling.

One thing I think is obvious and that is no matter whether you personally support the agenda of the protesters or oppose them, the faculty and administration at Reed has utterly failed to lead the campus. That is very sad, and would enrage me if I were paying tuition there.

On a personal note, if there is one thing that would get me to vote for Donald Trump, it would be people hating on Steve Martin, comic genius.

There’s also an opinion piece in WaPo written by Lucia Martinez Valdivia, one of the professors who was trying to teach the class. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/professors-like-me-cant-stay-silent-about-this-extremist-moment-on-campuses/2017/10/27/fd7aded2-b9b0-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html?utm_term=.d4906f20edd7 She describes herself as “an eminently replaceable, untenured, gay, mixed-race woman with PTSD.” She clearly felt not supprted by the administration and required to work under unacceptable conditions.

There was an earlier thread on the topic.

http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/parents-forum/2017132-occupation-of-humanities-110-p1.html

In the meantime, this student group has moved on to occupying the office of Reed’s president.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/10/reed_students_have_been_camped.html

My kid gets a ton of mail from Reed but won’t be applying. They clearly cannot handle this situation.

Read this also from WashPo as another viewpoint on the free speech issues.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2017/11/02/older-people-and-republicans-threatening-free-speech/?tid=hybrid_counterpoint_1_na&utm_term=.e5629971d757

Re: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/rampage/wp/2017/11/02/older-people-and-republicans-threatening-free-speech/

No surprise that support or opposition for freedom of speech tends to be selective and situational (i.e. more support for those on the same side politically, more opposition for those on the other side politically).

The Reed situation doesn’t seem to be a “side” politically, unless “really immature” is a political point of view.

It went on way too long, but ultimately got shut down by the best people of all to shut it down – the other students. It was ridiculous for people to come to Reed in order to start shutting down the one course they knew they were going to have to take if they decided to go there.

A friend’s daughter went to Reed. Lasted one semester.This kind of stuff wasn’t fun for her. She didn’t like the drugs and pot smoking.

Asking for the college to desinvest from Wells Fargo (even though a sit in) is totally different from shouting down professors trying to reach and intimidating the most vulnerable.
To me, it’s not about the students. They’re teens and young adults, learning from mistakes, and if necessary in need of corrections when they push it too far. What matters is adults’ reaction.

I always thought you went to Reed because you bought into the idea of having to take this foundational course. To me it’s like going to St. Johns and saying I don’t want to do the Great Books program. I assume Reed does offer courses in non-Western literature and thought that you can take later.

If the students don’t want to take the course, that’s their choice. However, there will be no diploma at the end because it is a required course. These students are protesting that they don’t want OTHERS to take the course. They have no right to do that and disrupt the course so that those others can’t graduate.

I disagree. It is fundamentally the job of the administration and the faculty to set parameters on appropriate discourse. It should not be dependent on a group of freshmen who haven’t been on campus long enough to develop a fear of the crazies.

As far as the survey about flag burning and keeping “my two daddies” books out of elementary school libraries, get back to me when mobs of grandmas start shutting down college classes. Even if you believe there is some kind of equivalence between not wanting books on sexuality (homo or heterosexual) available to elementary kids and demanding that we stop teaching Plato because he was a white male, the issue isn’t the belief. The issue is the action.

If I were the president of Reed, I’d expel the students who harassed their professors and classmates. I’m not kidding. If they don’t want to read the material, let them found their own college where they can craft their own syllibi. What right do they have to deprive their classmates of the education they went specifically to Reed to obtain? It seems the height of self-centeredness to demand that the college rework its curriculum to accommodate their specific beliefs. The college was there before them and will be there after they leave. And, again, if it were up to me, I’d hasten their departure.

“the best people of all to shut it down”

I agree with @Ohiodad51 that the freshmen stepped up and took on a job that ought to belong to the administration. But I also agree with @JHS in the sense that the freshmen were the most effective possible actors here. By taking on the responsibility, they made a point to their schoolmates that institutional action could never have made.

I am the parent of a freshman at Reed. I received an email from the President of Reed the first week of school, discussing the protests. I talked to my D about it, and got the sense that the vast majority of the student body were not supporting the disrupters. Weeks passed and I heard nothing more about it.

Now, thanks to CC members, I see that the Atlantic and WaPo have reported in the past week about the Hum 110 controversy and the Wells Fargo protest. I have not gotten any further updates on the protests by email or snail mail from administration. We did receive an invite from Parents and Family Weekend at Reed for Nov 3 through 5. Too far for us on the East Coast to attend. I wonder if admin was forthright that the school is kinda under siege. Instigated by ‘a former sophomore, currently on leave from Reed’ whatever that is.

Re: #15

You may want to ask your daughter whether the news coverage matches what she herself saw.

^ I’d be very interested in hearing from curretlnt students.
Hum 101 is so integral to Reed that it’s like protesting the main reason they chose to attend - it doesn’t make sense and I’d imagine most stusents would be horrified.
The fact the protests were instigated by a former student “currently on leave” (which means “fix the problem before you return or transfer”) should also be taken into account.

Spiked has a long article about the issues at Reed.

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/how-identity-politics-divided-reed-college-black-lives-matter-free-speech#

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with students agitating to adjust curriculum to better meet what they believe to be their needs and concerns. That has happened since the dawn of time. It’s reflected in Plato’s dialogues and Moses’ interviews with the Almighty. What’s wrong is permanently disrupting all possible education until you get your way, and demonizing teachers and other students. I’m sure the Reed administration would like a do-over on its response to the protests last year. They probably thought the movement would run out of steam on its own (as, in reality, it probably has), but it took longer than anyone would have guessed to happen).

The protest leader is on leave this year, but I don’t think the leave was involuntary. That’s certainly not the impression I got from the Economist story I read, which was written by the same guy who wrote the Spiked piece @Zinhead linked, and who really took the trouble to talk to the principals in this mess. She’s a real person, not a caricature – passionate, immature, energetic, self-centered. She pretty much created, maintained, and led the movement, often single-handedly. It was exhausting. She understands that it meant she didn’t really want what Reed had to offer, but she’s not sure what it is she wants instead.

You do understand that is not what happened here, don’t you?