<p>^ Awwww…what about defacto labs?</p>
<p>How do med schools and labs relate to UNDERGRAD? Heh.</p>
<p>^^^Take that up with the JHU people. :-)</p>
<p>^ Actually, take it up with National Science Foundation.</p>
<p>NSF defines JHU APL as a Division<a href=“one%20of%20nine%20divisions/schools%20of%20JHU”>/U</a> of the university owned and operated by it’s Board of Trustees. (That’s why you can include APL in the totals)</p>
<p>The Federal Government (Department of Energy) owns LBNL, LLNL, LANL and Berzerkley and other private companies is merely a contracted institutions with an agreement to manage hiring of staff/world class researchers (that’s what Cal is good for) ***for ***the Federal gov’t.
Conclusion: NSF recognizes that JHU APL is not a defacto lab like Caltech JPL (which handed ownership of JPL to NASA in 1950’s). NSF also recognizes JHU Med to be a part of the JHU University (Durrrrr). </p>
<h2>Plus, most of what happens at APL is classified and has nothing to do with fund raising efforts.</h2>
<p>You can’t selectively add Cal + UCSF only.</p>
<p>If you add UCSF, then you have to add the rest of the UC System ($1.2 billion dollars), No way can you pick and choose.</p>
<p>Prestige…Don’t let your emotion carry you away. </p>
<p>All I was saying is that since Berkeley does not have a medical school like Emory has, the money that Berkeley raised came from, and be spent on, areas outside of the medical education. And, I addressed that point to you since it seems you’ve always perceived - as you’ve always been caught on CC trying to paint that picture exactly - that Berkeley is such an ordinary school, and therefore, not deserving of the top 20 list.</p>
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<p>Well, if you are going to make up institutions, here you go:</p>
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<li>HYP / Penn / Brown / Columbia / Cornell / Dartmouth ($2,803.76 million)</li>
<li>Stanford University ($640.11 million)</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins University ($433.39 million)</li>
<li>University of Southern California ($368.98 million)</li>
<li>University of California, Los Angeles ($351.69 million)</li>
<li>University of Wisconsin-Madison ($341.81 million)</li>
<li>New York University ($334.79 million)</li>
<li>University of Washington ($323.55 million)</li>
<li>Massachusetts Institute of Technology ($319.07 million)</li>
<li>Duke University ($301.65 million)</li>
<li>University of California, San Francisco ($300.42 million)</li>
<li>University of Minnesota ($272.35 million)</li>
<li>University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill ($270.11 million)</li>
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<p>even better.</p>
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<p>Yeah, that pretty much sums up my view of Cal. </p>
<p>btw, don’t take my word for it, USNWR also ranks it outside the Top 20 – so go cry me a river.</p>
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<p>midatlmom, you may have unintentionally taken my quote out of context. I was referring to the PAYSCALE survey, not the CAE press release from the original post.</p>
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<p>oooo that looks goood. feels good too. mmm tasty money :)</p>
<p>“oooo that looks goood. feels good too. mmm tasty money”</p>
<p>Haha, congrats to the University of Pennsylvania! It’s impressive that some schools are able to post such large financial campaign successes right now while nationwide college giving is down an estimated 15%.</p>
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Well, Penn is one of only two universities to have its founder on money. :D</p>
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<p>And on the $100 bill, too–much better than being on the nickel (or the $2 bill!) like the other guy. :p</p>