<p>as some of you know i've just decided to go back to school for pre med. throughout my research on the path i have ahead of me i discovered that when applying to med school i am required to send in transcripts from all the colleges i've attended in my lifetime. the thought that's going through my mind right now is that i'm basically screwed. after high school i went to two community colleges and devry university, failing out of all of them after the first semester. on my defense at the time i dont feel i was mature enough for college and i guess i was just trying to find myself, even though i now realize that i went about that the wrong way. my question is, even if i were to get perfect 4.0 as a pre med would my ability to get into med school be basically hopeless because of how badly i screwed up in my younger years?</p>
<p>anyone at all?</p>
<p>They do consider upward trends. So if you get A's from here on out, then you'll effectively have a 4.0(or close to it) even though they'll see your F's. Comeon, its not like adcoms are full of idiots. They'll see your grades in addition to their context.</p>
<p>Well, the truth of the matter is, those failing grades will impact your GPA. The only real way to get by this is to get the highest GPA you can possible in undergrad to offset those poor grades and if necessary, do a post-bac to further improve your gpa.</p>
<p>Adcoms will see that those grades that negatively impact your gpa are during your high school years, but also consider that many med schools receive a large number of applications and as such, may screen and have a cutoff for a certain GPA; even if the adcoms will see those grades were from high school, you might never reach the adcoms to begin with if you get screened out.</p>
<p>Conclusion: It all depends on your performance from now on. Get the highest gpa you can and figure out what your final gpa will be at the end including those courses you took in high school. If you think you have a competitive gpa, than go for it, otherwise, post-bac might be a more attractive option.</p>
<p>On a related note, before you take the MCAT's when the time comes, consider your GPA. MCAT's are only valid for 3 years for most med schools and so if you take MCAT's early, and score well, but your gpa is still bad, than you have less time to improve that GPA before those good MCAT scores expire.</p>
<p>go to the forums at <a href="http://www.studentdoctor.com%5B/url%5D">www.studentdoctor.com</a>
they are super active and you could get more advice there. it's always good to get advice from many sources!</p>
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<p>What? Med school admissions don't see high school grades. The OP went on to some college education after high school.</p>
<p>They'll just see the two community college and the DeVry transcriptions.</p>
<p>Regarding the OP's post, I think it's really hard to say. If you apply to schools that have cut-offs, you might be left out in the cold due to your low(er) overall GPA. However, if you explain in your essay why your grades in the past were so low and how your current successful college experience is a much better reflection of who you are, then I think you'll stand a chance.</p>
<p>Well, in the context of my post, it was regarding those CC's and devry classes he took during high school.</p>
<p>He took those after high school.</p>
<p>From the original post:</p>
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<p>I stand corrected than. Any ways, I think people will understand my post regardless of that.</p>
<p>ok so now i have yet another question for all you good people here and i cannot stress enough how important it is that some of you help me out with this answer. i went into a local college and the adviser there told me that because of how badly i screwed up in the community college, i would not get accepted but if i were to retake the classes it would TOTALLY erase the old grade and replace it with the new one. now i asked him if the grades would show up come time to submit them to the AMCAS and he said no and that once again my old grade would be totally replaced with the new one. i also asked a few friends that just graduated from college and they told me that their colleges do the same thing and that the old grade is totally replaced by the new one. now i think i remember reading somewhere that while the grade is replaced it still shows and affects your gpa when it comes time to hand everything into the AMCAS. if someone could please clear this up for me it would honestly mean the world, thank you.</p>
<p>It's very rare for a university to completely replace an old grade with a new one. For example, at my school, if you fail a course, you get an F. Say you retake that course and get a B. My school will then consider you to have effectively replaced the F, so they'll consider it a 3.0, not the average between a 0.0 and a 3.0. However, my school will still leave the F on there, just to clarify what happened. When AMCAS sees that transcript, they WILL count the F, and instead of 4 units at 3.0, I get 8 units at 1.5.</p>
<p>If, however, my school really had completely erased it from the transcript, then AMCAS would have no way of knowing and therefore wouldn't be able to include it.</p>
<p>In other words, it varies a little bit from school to school -- but the vast majority handle it just like mine does. Ask the registrar, not your friends and not the advisor. Make sure to check with the registrar about exactly what would happen.</p>