<p>At the school that produced Jackie Robinson, Arthur Ashe, and Tom Bradley, only 96 African Americans are expected to enroll in the freshman class this fall. Buried in the article is also the stat that UCSD is doing even worse at attracting blacks and will enroll only 52 in the incoming class.</p>
<p>This is more complicated than it appears. Both H & I are products of UCLA...and I've been employed there for almost 29 yrs. I do concur that the exceptional minorities do have choices beyond the UCs and most have elected to pursue their undergrad studies at other institutions...most are located in the east coast. Even with outreach efforts that provide current UCLA URM undergrads with summer internships and mentoring, they tend to apply and matriculate to other colleges & universities for grad work. But, overall, the investment is a good one...just that the students have other choices. The bigger question is how many are admitted vs enrolling. It's tough when URMs see very few similar faces on campus...and, it is a BIG campus.</p>
<p>And 20 of the 96 are recruited athletes...</p>
<p>And how many of the 20 are football and how many basketball players? How big is the entering class? That does seem like a very small number.</p>
<p>OK, you forced me to actually LOOK at the article!! LOL 4,852 entering freshmen!! That really is incredible...</p>
<p>OK, 96 out of 4,852??? This is extremely depressing...</p>
<p>i guess that's what happens when you don't have AA.</p>
<p>I guess for UCLA it would look bad, but the real concern should be if the total # of African Americans who go to college has declined from CA or not.</p>
<p>It's not just a matter of looking bad. I do think diversity is good for <em>everybody</em>. And 96 our of 4,852 is just a drop in the ocean: 1 for every 50.</p>
<p>That is scary. Glad I'm going to USC</p>
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<p>exactly. But not having AA is a more respectable thing than not having the most diverse entering class ever. So get over it. The problems here lie in the elementary/high schools, not the college admission process.</p>
<p>Someone actually believes that having under one hundred black kids at a state school the size of Ucla is OK?????????????????? This is the same state that provides one of the worst pre college educations in the Country, especially to inner city kids.</p>
<p>Hey, suze, that's 100 kids in the freshman class--times that by 4 and add in for graduate/professional schools--maybe we can push that figure up to 500 for the whole campus.</p>
<p>Does anyone happen to know about Berkeley's figures for this year?</p>
<p>"Someone actually believes that having under one hundred black kids at a state school the size of Ucla is OK??????????????????"</p>
<p>I don't necessarily see a problem, suze. I'm assuming you are not black. Perhaps I'm wrong. But black people don't march in lockstep together to the same schools or have identical mind sets. Every black student is an individual who makes his own college choices based on his unique situation. He takes into account his goals, talents, motivation, & finances, and makes a choice based on a combination of hard facts and gut instinct. Like every other kid going through the process. Qualified blacks are being persued by top schools all over the country. Every individual black kid who takes advantage of a great opportunity eleswhere leaves a hole in minority admissions at his home public U. I doubt that a single black kid heading eleswhere worries about the racial diversity back at UCLA. Nor should he.</p>
<p>StickerShock, the low number of blacks at UCs is because of their admission policies. Even though they can't give racial preference, their comprehensive review should result in much greater diversity than it does. The state of CA is should be ashamed. And BTW, I'm half black.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>And 96 our of 4,852 is just a drop in the ocean: 1 for every 50.<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>At UCSD it's even worse: slightly better than 1 for every 100.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Does anyone happen to know about Berkeley's figures for this year?<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>According to the article Berkeley will enroll 140 black freshman this year, up 10 from last year, out of an incoming class of 4200. Latinos also increased from 449 to 509.</p>
<p>Icarus - (quoting you) "But not having AA is a more respectable thing than not having the most diverse entering class ever. So get over it. The problems here lie in the elementary/high schools, not the college admission process."</p>
<p>I couldn't agree more about the AA thing, and I am a UCLA alum. As I recall, it was fairly diverse when I went (20 years ago). And diversity doesn't just mean racial.</p>
<p>Are there statistics available by race/ethnicity as to:
*# applied
*#/% admitted
*#/% matriculating (yield)?</p>
<p>It would be interesting to me to see where the low numbers come from - the beginning, middle or end of the process, or all three?</p>
<p>"The state of CA is should be ashamed."</p>
<p>why??</p>
<p>Has the TOTAL number of college bound African Americans from CA declined?</p>
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<blockquote> <p>Are there statistics available by race/ethnicity as to: *# applied *#/% admitted *#/% matriculating (yield)?</p> </blockquote>
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<p>It would be interesting to me to see where the low numbers come from - the beginning, middle or end of the process, or all three?<<</p>
<p>This would be interesting, I agree.</p>
<p>Just from a quick mental survey of our local hs: </p>
<p>Low numbers of African Americans apply to the UC--high % accepted--low % matriculate.</p>
<p>I can think of 4 high end to upper middle Af-Am students: 1 went to Harvard, 2 went to Stanford, 1 went to UCSD.</p>
<p>The CA teachers unions should be embarrassed due to the state of the public high schools. Black parents should be angry with their local school districts. UCLA has tough admissions standards as a top-notch university should.</p>