<p>I would be able to get in to UPenn if I'm in the top 11~12%??</p>
<p>It wouldn't be out of the question if you attend a very competitive school and the rest of the package is strong.</p>
<p>I remember one who got in last year who was top 20% at a strong school, had very strong scores and a great EC.</p>
<p>well i don't think my school is considered a very competitive school. probably average.</p>
<p>Is that weighted or unweighted? Because I have a similar question and I am also applying to Penn. My weighted rank is 3/380 (4.52) but my unweighted is 40/380 (3.90).</p>
<p>well my school doesnt have separate ranks for weighted and unweighted.</p>
<p>so the kids taking AP/HNs classes get their points for weighted and thats the GPA the school uses for ranks..</p>
<p>i'm applying to CAS by the way, if that helps any to answer the question.</p>
<p>Over 90% of those accepted are in the top 10% of their class. That includes all of the hooked--recruited athletes, legacies and URMs (40% of class). When you do the math you see it's an uphill battle for sure, but not out of the question if you bring something Penn wants.</p>
<p>^ is that unweighted rank or weighted rank?</p>
<p>hm. hmom5, just wondering, how do you know all of these things? i see you replying on a lot of the posts. but thank you for being so knowlegeable haha :]</p>
<p>Hmom is a penn alumna.</p>
<p>ohhhh lol i guess that would explain it.</p>
<p>The facts I give are mostly published facts available in any schools common data set and on the College Board web site.</p>
<p>2006-2007 Freshman Class Profile
Top 10 percent of high school class: 94%
Top 25 percent of high school class: 99%
Top 50 percent of high school class: 100% </p>
<p>First-year students submitting high school class standing: 100%
Average high school GPA: 3.9 </p>
<p>First-year students submitting GPA: 100% </p>
<p>First-year students submitting SAT scores: 97%</p>
<p>SAT scores (25/75 percentile):
Critical Reading: 650 – 750
Math: 680 – 780
Combined: 1330 – 1530</p>
<p>College Board says 99% are in the top 10 percent. Either way, you're facing a situation in which there's definitely less than 10% who are lower, probably less than 6%, and possibly only 1%.</p>
<p>The good news is I'm not sure that Penn uses rank as an absolute factor -- students with really high grades tend to be in the top 10% of their classes, so it makes sense that the overwhelming majority of Penn students would be in the top 10% of their graduating class. If you have ridiculously great grades but just missed the top 10% because your class is really small, or the rest of your class are ridiculous academic freaks or something...I don't think that will be held against you. Let's face it, if you go to a school with 100 seniors, only 10 of them can be in the top 10%. Number 10 might have a 4.12 and number 11 might have a 4.11. Does that mean number 10 was so much better than number 11? No, not really, that just means that number 10 got lucky somewhere along the way.</p>
<p>And yes, it's happened. The year before I graduated, the class of 2003's valedictorian had like a 4.19 and the salutatorian had a 4.17 or something like that. It was literally by .02 grade points.</p>
<p>my class has about 540 people.</p>
<p>Juillet, Penn and most colleges look at your grades in the context of your school. At some schools a 3.6 is valedictorian and no one ever gets a 4.0. At others a 4.0 isn't even top 20%. GPA is meaningless without context.</p>
<p>could i make up for my gpa with SAT scores?
i'm not sure how stellar my scores would be, i'm taking it for the first time in march..
but didn't penn put more weight on gpa/rank this year?</p>
<p>bumpppp i would like to know that answer too ^^</p>
<p>No, at top colleges it really doesn't work that way. They have too many applicants with strength across the board.</p>
<p>When you look at the 96% in top 10% of class figure, you understand they are not even bending that far for recruited athletes, URM's and legacies.</p>
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Penn received 22,935 applications for admission to the Class of 2012. Of those applicants, 3,883, or 16.9 percent, were offered admission. 98.9 percent of the students admitted for Fall 2008 came from the top 10 percent of their high school graduating class and scored an average of 1,437 on the SAT. 2,430 students matriculated into this year's freshman class.
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<p>Not likely, unless you feel lucky enough to fall within that 1 percent. My condolences.</p>
<p>What if your weighted rank is 3/380 but your unweighted rank is 40/380, which one do they count? Again I can't seem to find an answer for this.</p>