<p>I wouldn't COMMEND anyone who does this</p>
<p>'To my surprise, I got a lot of "I don't believe you" look when I tell others that our DD has never get a grade other than A since the first day of her schooling. '</p>
<p>telling us here anonymously is VERY DIFFERENT than bringing up your DDs grades to people in person.....</p>
<p>I would never ask any one what their kids GPA was, and I would never share my Ds, no matter what it was....</p>
<p>jess,</p>
<p>I agree that we are actually teaching at a higher rate in the past 10 years. I am positive that I didn't do Geometry in elementary. I also did have science labs in 6th grade.
That being said, please put in mind that we really don't have a national program. VA has SOL which NC doesn't accept (EOG). Thus, every school district acts and operates in their own world.</p>
<p>My point was and is he is involved, I couldn't care about his children's grades, to me that wasn't the point I was making. My point is that he is involved, and we should commend him for that. </p>
<p>Should someone be shot down for asking a question? Go and look at chances threads where KIDS ask their chances 2300 SAT, 4.0 tons of ec's. They are looking for reassurance, instead of saying they are bragging, how about we look at them as this is their 1st child and they have surfed and now are worried? What happened to the benefit of doubt?</p>
<p>bulletandpima--"support and assist" to the point where you encourage a parent who is really beyond the point where he's helping his daughter? He sounds obsessed. Have you SEEN DadII's other threads? He needs to lighten up in my opinion. </p>
<p>CG's mom is correct--he goes beyond posting anonymously on an internet forum about "here's my kid, what ideas do you have about where we should look at colleges for her." and discussing her GPA with others in person. Having it printed in the student of the month article once is a LOT different than having your dad bring it up in conversations with people he knows. They won't even publish GPAs unless the parents sign off on it--you can have them suppress details like that if your kids are minors, and most parent do in my experience--the local paper doesn't mention GPA, so I assume most parents or schools did not provide that information (which is private anyway).</p>
<p>o.k. it is the holiday season and we have a few more parties. Since I am relatively new to the company, a lot of conversation goes - how many kids to you have and how old are they? etc. because I am so very pound of my kids and usually putting a couple of accomplishments in the conversation. The most common one is "the straight A" line. The rest is discussed here.</p>
<p>I would think quite a few of the posters here know our stories well to know the last thing our DD will do is to study for something.</p>
<p>Another favorite subject of mine is how to pay for the college education. With our limited financial capability, I always told our kids that there are three things: NMF, AP scholar, and 4.0 GPA that are in their hands to help us out. In additiona to e/c activities.</p>
<p>to mombot. tehre are some who like to talk about their cars, there are some who like to talk about their whatever. I like to talk about our kids. It happens this is a forum to talk about kids and schools. I am sorry if I offended you by asking a question about GPA.</p>
<p>One more thought about why I am saying "lighten up about the GPA already" is that DD's best friend never got anything less than an unweighted A either (DD told me this; her parents never discuss her grades) in the gifted program in grade school and the honors program in high school. She was the valedictorian. She is an extremely talented and lovely person and deserves every accolade. </p>
<p>Her achievements made not a bit of difference--she was rejected from her first two choices and ended up at a school that she applied to that was not her top choice and is not as selective as the Ivies and top 10 LACs that she did NOT get into. Classmates with slightly lower GPAs and fewer activities got into MIT, Stanford, Amherst, and other top schools while she did not. </p>
<p>The difference is that she had never been handed anything less than "you're perfect." Not getting into her top two choices was devastating for her. She's had trouble adjusting to the school she's at. </p>
<p>So that's why I say don't focus so much on tiny decimal point differences in GPA or slight differences in test scores. Support and encourage your kids, and look for opportunities for them to push themselves outside their comfort zones and struggle and even fail. That builds the resilience you need to have in college, when you are just one in a sea of brilliant people, rather than one of a few standouts at a high school.</p>
<p>They announced the weighted grade point averages of the top 25 kids at the awards ceremony at our high school. There's no way for me to know how they translate into As - with our fairly complicated weighting system. I do know that my son, rank no. 8, had 3 B+s. </p>
<p>I went to a high school where an English teacher who thought you were capable of better work might give you a B, even if your work was better than everyone else in the class. I don't think anyone ever got straight As.</p>
<p>Personally, I think if there are more than one or two straight A all through high school kids the work is probably too easy.</p>
<p>MOM,
I don't research posters threads, so no I haven't seen any. I think my point isn't being understood.<br>
If he wants to brag go for it! If he is unsure and needs help than we should be here, just as I would hope if I had fears/concerns or worries people would help me.
I am not sitting next to you or him, I am just giving my life experiences.</p>
<p>I think it's okay to brag here, but I think DadII, who I believe may be an immigrant, should be aware that in the US bragging about grades in real life is like talking about salaries. It isn't done in polite society. One of the reasons I can't tell him if anyone gets straight As in my high school is because people don't talk about it.</p>
<p>Mathmom,</p>
<p>I agree! I have 3 kids and the only gpa I know of is theirs. The only class ranking I know of is theirs. I am not concerned about the person ranked ahead of them or behind I am only concerned about them</p>
<p>At my HS, there was only one 4.0. She did infact get A-s, but because our grades were based on the final letter grade for the year, aslong as she finished with an A average, she had the 4.0.</p>
<h1>2 had a 3.9...#3 had a 3.8...#4 had a 3.7...#5 had a 3.7 also.</h1>
<p>There was pretty bad grade deflation in my school. An A- average got you in the top 10. My buddy had a 3.5 and was #12, I believe.</p>
<p>GPA's can be meaningless without a point of reference. </p>
<p>For example, at D's (Catholic) school, an 82 is a C+ which is a 2.5 (her school has no minuses). At the public school in town an 82 is a B, which is a 3.0. </p>
<p>If you are in an honors class at her school, some teachers take the attitude that an "average" honors student deserves a "C" because they are "average" honors students. It is tough if you are in with a lot of high achievers, and very tough to get A's! </p>
<p>However, these same kids would be getting A+'s at the public school due to grade inflation.</p>
<p>To answer the question asked; Yes. All schools in our state; except for ultra small school in a very low population; have elementary K-6; Jr High. 7-9 and High School 10-12. If you are in one of the few High Schools that have the IB program, you go to the High School in 9th.</p>
<p>I think it goes without saying that if you're big and strong, you don't push people around. You need to be the gentle giant in order to be liked and accepted. It seems to me the same goes for those that are especially talented academically. One needs to underplay the grade and score thing.</p>
<p>This forum, however, I think is an exception. There are so many brilliant young kids (and their parents) that post here and many really want to know where they stand in relation to other top colleges applicants.</p>
<p>Getting straight As in an extraordinary achievement that few achieve. What it really says is that here's a kid whose upper limits have never been tested. Taken in context with the rest of the kid's activities and achievements, it's very useful information. In my son's school there are only 1 or 2 (out of 500+) in his graduating class with straight As.</p>
<p>I think the problem is; some people think that others shouldn't brag about their kids, accomplishments, finances, etc... Instead of addressing that the problem may actually be some people being insecure and unhappy with their accomplishments, stature, possessions, kids, etc... Why should a person who is very proud of something they have or are involved with have to remain humble about it? "So they don't hurt someone else's feelings"? Maybe others should learn that life isn't fair; that there will always be others who are better at some things; that have more; etc... Maybe they should learn not to be jeolous or envious. </p>
<p>The reverse is also true. You shouldn't "Boost" yourself up by pushing someone else down. Consider this; I would never say "My kid is better because he has a 3.5gpa and your kid only has a 3.0" or "I'm more successful than you because you only drive a ford focus and I have a Volvo". So why should another person be insecure with someone else's success and say they shouldn't talk about it; instead of being happy for them? Too many people seeing the glass as half empty. Too many people worrying about "Feelings". No matter how successful I am; or my kids; or quantity of possessions; etc... There will always be someone who is better and with more. Personally, I want to know these details of people. It helps me to set goals, improve myself, provide more options, etc... I don't want to see elementary schools have recess and NOT ALLOW the kids to keep score in kick-ball because they don't want some kids to feel as though the lost. Too much political correctness in our country. It has been a social virus.</p>
<p>first of all, I was not trying to brag here in terms of 4.0 GPA. if you read my OP carefully, I was in the opinion that a 4.0GPA is fairly common among the good students. </p>
<p>Secondly, I often use our kid's academic accomplishments to identy them in conversations. It is the same as one would say "my son plays QB for the HS". </p>
<p>So, do you all ever talk about your kids in any conversation? I don't feel bad if a parent tells me their kid is an all state basketball player. Not just because my kid is barely 5 ft and may not score a basket even with a ladder.</p>
<p>I am pround of our kids and will continue to talk about them and their accomplishments.</p>
<p>I recently had someone tell me that her kid had just received class ranking and was "number one." She's a WASP, so I don't think this is limited to immigrants or to one ethnic group. Of course, about 10% of the kids in this class are "number 1". Having a 4.0 at the public schools in this area is fairly common, less so at the private schools.<br>
I probably wouldn't tell people my kid's GPA, but I've heard plenty of people say casually that their kid is a straight A student.</p>
<p>At our high school, a 4.0 requires a 100 average. No one graduates with an unweighted 4.0, ever. Thankfully they rank.</p>
<p>It's pretty common to only have two or three kids with final averages over 90% in AP classes too. They really make them earn the weighting. Again, very thankful that they still rank.</p>
<p>yes my ds school had 44 valedictorians one year :)
those were all students who had straight As throughout high school.Since grades are unweighted,those students had have taken APs may have a lower GPA than those who take honors or regular classes.</p>
<p>For the top students who are applying to colleges that consider applications seperately it doesn't seem to hurt them. However, students that are applying to schools which use GPA for admission, it does put them at a disadvantage.</p>
<p>Identifying kids by their accomplishments, whether they are academic, artistic or athletic, is in my opinion, Not Done. It is like casually mentioning the kind of car you drive or the brand of your purse. Kids are more than their accomplishments or their grades or their test scores. </p>
<p>Think about it--you would only mention kids by their accomplishments if the accomplishment was something positive. Nobody would say "My daughter, the one who had alcohol poisoning, is blah blah blah.</p>