<p>I got 5's on both Physics E&M/Mechanics, but I would like to take 8.012. Suppose I fail 8.012 during P/NR in the fall, can I move on to 8.02 second semester, or do I have to retake 8.01 (I could just have skipped 8.01 with AP credits... I just wondered if I could use those AP credits to still be on track for my courses).</p>
<p>As you may know already, the first year website [says[/url</a>] only
…which doesn’t outline what would happen if a student enrolled in 8.012 and failed the class. In these cases, I usually look at the [url=<a href=“Advising resources | MIT Registrar”>Advising resources | MIT Registrar]Academic</a> Guide](<a href=“http://web.mit.edu/firstyear/2013/subjects/ap.html]says[/url”>http://web.mit.edu/firstyear/2013/subjects/ap.html), but I don’t see anything relevant in there either.</p>
<p>The way I read it, it seems that enrolling in 8.012 converts the credit for 8.01 into general elective credit, and therefore the 8.01 GIR is not fulfilled. But I don’t know if they would reverse the conversion if a student dropped/failed 8.012 – I suspect they might.</p>
<p>Thanks mollie… although it’s kind of inconclusive. worst case is i’ll drop to 8.01, and hopefully do well before the drop date.</p>
<p>Well, you’d have to do it before Add Date, actually. You can drop the class up to Drop Date (which is very late in the semester – about three weeks before the end of the semester), but you can only add a class in its place until Add Date, which is about a month in.</p>
<p>Friends of mine who took 8.012 without perhaps the proper preparation were very happy with the amount of effort and support the teaching staff was willing to put in to help them pass.</p>
<p>My friend had this issue, but with 18.01/18.02. She passed out of 18.01 but decided to take 18.014, which she later dropped. When she tried to go ahead to 18.02 later on, she couldn’t, on account of not having any credit for 18.01x.</p>
<p>The same might occur for 8.01/8.02, so there’s the possibility that, by taking 8.012, you “relinquish” the fact that you could have passed out of 8.01 by APs alone.</p>
<p>You will definitely want to clarify with someone whether there’ll be any “leniency” in your 8.01/8.02 case. I’m not too optimistic, though, since no amount of petitioning by my friend allowed her to bypass 18.01. It was really unfortunate.</p>
<p>You could accept credit and take 8.012 listener? :D</p>
<p>Yeah, I was always under the impression that by enrolling in 8.012 you forfeit any credit you could have gotten for it. PiperXP’s idea is a pretty good one; on your actual transcript, no matter what physics class you take, it’ll just say “Physics I,” so there’s no reason other than for your own benefit that you would take 8.012. So you might as well take it listener status. =]</p>
<p>kryptonsa36: can you tell me about 18.014? why did your friend dropped out of it? I’m considering taking that class. And anybody who know anything about that class besides it being theoretical and challenging, please tell me more about it?</p>
<p>18.014 uses a book called Apostol vol. I, and well, they have some online notes on OCW… you might want to look at those. It doesn’t have anything to do with HS math anymore, and it’s more like an Analysis course.</p>
<p>I don’t really know anything about 18.014 (or 18.024). They are obviously the proof/theory-intensive versions of calculus, and I hear that in 18.02x, 18.024 is even harder than the already-difficult, concept-intensive 18.022.</p>
<p>My friend dropped 18.014 because she decided against being a math major and therefore thought taking 18.014 had become overkill. I don’t know whether she actually faced difficulty in the class, though, nor if that influenced her decision.</p>
<p>On a somewhat different note, you’ll see a lot of people say you don’t have to be pressured to take the most difficult versions of the GIRs, but at the same time, my philosophy is that you should challenge yourself while you’re under pass/no record if you’re confident you can at least pass. Believe me, you’ll feel way better barely passing a “harder” class than potentially barely passing an “easier” class!</p>