<p>You don’t seem like the kind of person who would get into UCLA or UCB. No offense, but are you pretty sure will be able to go there?</p>
<p>That is true, harvest. Places like Necto allow those 18+ to get in. However, you’re not going to drop $200 there unless you’re drinking and obviously the OP can’t drink.</p>
<p>@dsi411 what made you think that ? tell me your reasons , get an answer … of course , I am sure !</p>
<p>@romanigypsyeyes well , I guess I wont go to clubs … If I will not be able to drink so what is the point …dancing to the brain-pounding beats all night , drinking orange juice ? :D</p>
<p>If you’re “sure” you’re getting in to UCB, you do not understand admissions to American colleges.</p>
<p>@romanigypsyeyes dude , please . I m not saying that I will definitely get into these two schools ! I m saying that I have chance . this dsi something guy said that I cant get into these to school with no apparent reason …
Of course I know the process and I know nothing is exactly predictable .</p>
<p>Well, gc, that’s up to you. Necto was popular among my high school friends so apparently there’s some appeal. </p>
<p>I am of age and still don’t go clubbing so I don’t get the appeal drunk or sober.</p>
<p>@romanigypsyeyes I guess it’s a cultural thing . I am from one of the best high schools of turkey . All elite students , we all have bright future compared to many turkish peers .But also we all go to clubs . It is not a special thing . We are not 7/24 drunk . It does not effect our work load or school things . Think about it , there are 7 days in a week . You can always take a day-off and have some fun .</p>
<p>I dont know if clubbing is something special for you but it is very mundane entertainment for us …</p>
<p>
You don’t know how to have a good time sober?? Perhaps, rather than budgeting how much you spend on your liquor, you should figure out how to go to a club sober. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Plus, what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. Clubbing is mundane. Yet, you do it every weekend? Ok. </p>
<p>I would think someone who would like to enjoy their youth would find an activity that they take delight in…but…maybe it’s just a cultural thing.</p>
<p>
In post #45, you say of your chances of being admitted to this dsi something guy “of course , I am sure !”</p>
<p>Make up your mind. And, while we’re speaking of minds, you just might be surprised what is expected of “elite students” (your phrase) here.</p>
<p>I don’t know why I am responding to this thread; I guess it’s a guilty pleasure, like watching a bad television show.</p>
<p>^ LOL, my thoughts exactly, IB. I had a response written out about why that made no sense but decided to take a nap instead ;)</p>
<p>After expenses I pay about $200 a month, and I spend like half that on fast food, the other half on things I NEED. There is absolutely no way you need 1.5k a month. Also A “secondhand car” for most college students is not 5-10k. Just sayin, I think OP is in for a culture shock.</p>
<p>Gypsysomething , I started to think that you literally have no life . I have time for activities like social service, for night life , for school (which is from 8:00 a.m. to 3:15 p.m.) … </p>
<p>When I said that I m sure I can get into those school , I meant that I m sure that I am an eligible candidate , the person who asked that was probably an asocial person like you . He was like waowwww you go to clubssss , you are a bad student . I know 3 foreign languages , even english is my second foreign language . I had time for everything maybe you need planner or you should sleep less , literally what are you doing with your life ? sleeping 12 hours per day ? </p>
<p>Anyways , I m at the wrong place to ask my questions . Bunch of lifeless nerds who has no future . It s clear that asocial people cannot be successful in business life unless they work in laboratory isolated from outside world . I stopped myself to not be disrespectful but you , not all of you guys , definitely deserve it . </p>
<p>I wonder if you ever went to concert in stadium or in big arena or if you ever went to down syndrome march or gay pride march to celebrate moments , to enjoy life together . You do something besides studying ? You are a bad student .</p>
<p>I do not have to prove myself to you because you are no one , go watch your bad tv shows because this is probably what you all do with your time and dont go to clubs , okay ? I ll pop up a dom perignon instead of you , if you know what it is .Also, I ll go to concert , movie theater , theater or every other social events that will definitely (!) make you a bad student …</p>
<p>by the way , I have no faith in intellectual aptitude of any american unless their SAT I is 2350+ and subject tests are all like 750+ … I scored 2100 on sat I ,and english is my 3rd language !Not my mothertongue , not even my first foreign language ! I literally learnt this language in past 2 years . SAT exams are the easist things that I ve ever seen in my whole life , math section of SAT I should be a big joke. It is like a middle school level .If English was my mothertongue or even my first foreign language , there would be no way I score less than 2350 on SAT I . I mean you work so hard to go to schools like U Mic ,and your mothertongue is english ??? well not good for you , that means you are not a bright mind …Also you have how many lessons per semester . I have 13-14 ! And most of them is in french not in my mothertongue . Is that something you could do when you were 14-15 ??? no! well what s your school ? michigan state ? you should be genius (!) . One of my friend got accepted into that school , she took Sat for fun , she scored 1700something… Stop sharing your irrelevant opinions about what make you a bright student , because obviously you are not one of them .</p>
<p>I am making it clear again for people who have low reasoning ability . I am sure does not mean ı am sure that ı Will be admitted . It means that I am sure that I CAN/may be admitted. So I said that I am an eligible candidate . This is clear enough for even a person who has 80 iq .</p>
<p>I hope that you enjoy your time in the US, if and when that happens. I would suggest declining an interview; it’s unlikely to go well.</p>
<p>It Will go well . You are not that person to make this point . First of all , you and this gypsy person do not know how to answer or speak formally in a respectful manner . You re not answering to questions , you share your opinions which are not asked .
You wont do that interviews . I ve already done an internship at innovation departmant of an usa company . It went perfect . You have to learn your place . You are a lifeless internet person . It S my mistake to ask my question to unsuccessful , lifeless internet people .
Adios , a dieu …</p>
<p>
Wow. Especially for this part of the post:
With such a brilliant mind and such a high self-esteem, the future will likely be great for you! After all, you are surely an elite student from an elite school from your country.</p>
<p>
Your parents may be doing pretty well, as compared to the parents of most students in US or from other country. Good for you!</p>
<p>Ok, let’s see if I can pull us back from the deep end (where OP went).</p>
<p>I think there are two issues at play here: alcohol in US vs. Europe and socioeconomic status.</p>
<p>OP, you come from a country where drinking as a teenager is commonplace. This is not the case for the US. As you said, you’ve never used a fake ID, but an american who grew up doing the things you have been doing must have used a fake ID. In other words, American high schoolers who go to clubs on the weekends are committing FELONIES (in certain states). Now some people don’t view it as such but others do. Most college students enter college at 18 but again, the drinking age is 21, therefore, most people spend 2 or 3 full years in college not being able to drink legally and either avoid bars and clubs or commit a felony to enter them.</p>
<p>I just realized the term felony might be foreign to you. States that consider fake IDs felonies are thus lumping them in with other felonies. Examples of other types of felonies are assault, robbery, drug dealing, rape, murder. Not exactly the type of behavior associated with our brightest students? Of course I’m stretching things a bit, but the fact remains that alcohol consumption by high schoolers in the US is considered bad behavior by many - not a characteristic of our brightest students (regardless of how many of them do actually drink).</p>
<p>Remember, if you use a fake ID here in the states to try and go to a club like you are used to, you could get DEPORTED.</p>
<p>In the US, bars and clubs are expensive. That bottle of 750mL DP that you referenced above could easily be as high as $800 in a club that charged $20-$50 per person to enter. Let’s say just say $1000 total. For $1000, my fraternity could buy 150L of vodka. Why would we spend $1000 on getting 10 (aged 21+) people into a club and one bottle of alcohol when one 21+ person can buy 100 bottles of vodka and throw a party for 100+ people who don’t have to be 21 with that same $1000?</p>
<p>This segues us into the socioeconomic class issue. People are not saying that you will spend all day studying - they are just saying that you won’t need $1500 a month for your leisure time. Most parties in college are free or cost a few dollars per person to enter and maybe they charge you 1 or 2 dollars a drink without needing ID. This is in contrast to even a “cheap” bar where that same drink is going to be $5-10, and you have to be 21 to enter. Half the stuff you listed as “social activities” don’t cost any money, and for concerts, people will just save up if they have to.</p>
<p>You are fortunate to come from enough money to have $18,000/year handed to you by your parents to spend on whatever you want. That pocket money budget will probably be more than 99.9% of your peers. Hell, even kids who come from families as wealthy or more wealthy than you may still not be given free reign of 18k a year.</p>
<p>Take a chill pill, recognize your fortunate circumstances, and recognize that all most posters were saying is that you’re not going to be spending that kind of money, not that you are going to be studying 24 hours/day.</p>
<p>iwbb, Thanks for educating me on this. I have never been in a bar in my whole life, so I do not know that the drink is so expensive there.</p>
<p>Two and a half years ago, at the beginning of the school (not UG) when many students mingled with each other, in the pre-orientation period before the work really started, DS said some students are financially capable of going to such drinking places every night or every other night while he could not “catch up with them” even if he would like to. I now could understand why he said so, after your explanation.</p>
<p>Actually, this kind of events could help the students to sort out which group of classmates he or she may be more conveniently be a part of in the future. I think DS had a similar experience (not in a bar at that time though) early in his freshman year as a certain segment of students are from the family which is “filthily rich” and their lives are thrrefore very different from the students from other background in their whole life (in school or in the society.) Those who have much more have some difficulty in socializing with those who have not so much resources, in the school (actually even after their graduation as well.)</p>
<p>BTW, I heard U of Mich., as a public school, is expensive for OOS (or international) students. Students who are from a slightly lower socioeconomic class do not usually go OOS for college. Those who are from an even lower socioeconomic class go to community college. I think many students from overseas do not understand that the socioeconomic class of the student’s family by and large determines where the students receive their education for their secondary education and their higher education.</p>
<p>You, sir, are going to be viewed as the foreign tool if you parade yourself across campus as you have done in this thread. You are being ridiculous, defensive, and unnecessary with your hateful comments and assumptions. Come on campus and act the way you’ll do and you’ll set up an interesting social situation fr you. One that will be plagued with more people not like you than those who do. I suggest you learn how Americans socialize. Lean the ins and outs. Learn the dos and don’ts. </p>
<p>I’ll give you two tips: Downplaying the intelligence of perhaps 99% of your pontential peers and good friends makes you out to be a pompous jerk, and carrying about your “extravagant” club lifestyle is lame. Seriously, don’t talk about so much when you get here. The culture is different.</p>