Acceptance of "Back Up" School Offers

<p>Some advice please...I know this has been addressed elsewhere on this forum but I can't seem to find it.</p>

<p>My son has accepted his USNA appointment and has also been accepted at five civilian colleges. He has not turned down any of these offers yet.</p>

<p>Should he turn down all of them except the one preferred back up school? Should he accept the back up school even though he won't go there unless the worst happens? How does this work if he does accept a back up school offer? Does he fill out all the paperwork and do we put down deposits, etc., as if he plans to show up there in September - and just wait until summer to let them know he is not coming after all?</p>

<p>I want to make sure he leaves his options open but I think it is probably time for us to close a few doors at least.</p>

<p>On a related note, he applied for an NROTC scholarship but has not heard anything. If he were to be awarded a scholarship, would he have heard by now? He completed it back in October. It's not that we are too concerned about it since he really doesn't need it now, but if we are forced to pursue the back up option it would be nice to know if there was a scholarship along with it.</p>

<p>I'm sure there are many of you out there who have been through this. If you can explain this in simple terms, it would be a big help.</p>

<p>Sacto Mom...this might be the posts you were looking for regarding back-up schools:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=140859%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=140859&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Sacto Mom, My son had recieved a 4 yr AFROTC scholarship and a 3yr ArmyROTC scholarship AFTER he received his Appointments to the USAFA and USMA.<br>
He did accept the AFROTC before the mailing deadline. He wanted to wait until he visited the USAFA before he accepted the Appointment (which he has). I recall reading that if our son were to accept an Appointment to any of the academies, that the ROTC scholarship would be withdrawn. We still have the option of paying the housing deposit at the college where his ROTC scholarships were offered.<br>
Do look back at the other linking thread for more info. Congratulations to your son!</p>

<p>Sacto mom,</p>

<p>You're right to investigate this question. Anything can happen before and during the summer which could make attendance at a service academy impossible. Therefore, having a backup plan is a great idea.</p>

<p>Our daughter's first choice civilian college offered her a 4-year ROTC scholarship. When she informed them that she would attend West Point they told her that if it didn't work out, they would still provide a scholarship and have a place for her. Although I'm unaware of the ROTC guidelines, I'm sure there will be others here who will have that answer for you.</p>

<p>Sacto mom,</p>

<p>This is such a personal choice, and every parent has in the back of their mind, "Gee, what if this doesn't work out?" As parents we want only the best for them, and want to assure ourselves that every avenue has been covered to help our children succeed.</p>

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<li><p>Your son is free to accept any scholarship that is offered to him. Should he choose to attend the Academy he needs to inform ROTC so that his scholarship can be offered to another student. (Our cadet was offered full 4 yr. scholarships to AF and Navy ROTC, and a 4 yr.Honor's Student scholarship to a civilian college)</p></li>
<li><p>Some parents/kids make the decision to accept an offer to a civilian school and pay the deposit, just in case things don't work out or no offer of appointment has been made before the 1 May acceptance deadline (there are Academy offers made after that date). Some civilian colleges will permit an "extension" of their offer up to a year, you just need to ask admissions what their policy is for incoming freshmen. In our case we sent a deposit in to the civilian college, our cadets offer came in mid April, and the college refunded the deposit because we notified them of her decision prior to the 1 May deadline.</p></li>
<li><p>You should encourage your son to apply for scholarships through his high school (clubs, church, etc). Any money that he is awarded can go toward his initial debt or downpayment to an Academy. </p></li>
<li><p>As far as ROTC scholarships go, they can be awarded at any time depending on how quick you were able to complete the application process. We know of students who were awarded scholarships in early August of their Senior year and as late as June after graduation. If you are awarded a ROTC scholarship and decide to go to an Academy, you must relinquish your scholarship.<br>
In the case of Momof twins if it was an Army ROTC scholarship they may have that option of retaining. AF and Navy do not "hold" your scholarship, you would need to re-apply. AFROTC is so "major" specific that you risk losing your scholarship if you change your major from the one that they bring you in on. So please, talk to your recruiter and read all the fine print.</p></li>
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<p>As far as entering an Academy with a deposit paid, and a back up plan, here's what we've heard through admissions officers,(this will be blunt).<br>
Historically, students who enter an Academy with a "back up" plan tend to wash out at a greater rate than those who enter with a complete commitment to that Academy (going in with only that Academy on their mind. There is a difference between entering with a sense of fear of the unknown and entering with doubts that this is really the right decision). </p>

<p>Last year I heard of one young man who DORd after the 3rd week and when asked during exit counseling what his plans were stated that he was going to College B, and freshman orientation for that school was the following week. Admissions did not think too highly of that answer.<br>
Their thoughts were that he did not come to the Academy with conviction. His "I'll try it and if I don't like it attitude...." is selfish. He took an opportunity away from another. When you sign the "Accept" form, it is the intent that you are honestly saying that you have no reservations about your decision.<br>
What I truly find amazing is the fact, and this is NO JOKE, there have been parents on RDay who say, "I didn't know this was a MILITARY school." YIKES!!!</p>

<p>I have been where you are and offer you my best wishes. This is not an easy time for you or you son, so many difficult decisions are being made that will affect your family's life and your son's future.</p>

<p>I send my best wishes to you and am confident that all will be well!
BEAT ARMY!</p>

<p>Please don't misunderstand. I'm not talking about the kids who think they will try out a service academy and then decide to leave. I'm thinking specifically about the female cadet from last summer who became dehydrated during Beast. While in the hospital it was discovered that she had a disease that would make a military career impossible. She left West Point and scrambled to deal with both health issues and getting into a college. Luckily she was able to enter a college which offered her a scholarship also. I don't recall her cc screen name. The point is that something like this probably happens each and every summer and some people (students and parents also) will feel a bit less anxiety if they know a back up plan is available just in case.</p>

<p>No, No...please I do understand that there are extenuating circumstances. Medical issues do present themselves during the summer that are out of our control.
There are those who retain there slots in civilian colleges just in case things do not work out. But the exit interviews for those that voluntarily DOR show that if a back up was available it makes it that much easier to leave.
One parent I know held the deposit and called admissions on behalf of their child, without their knowledge for that "just in case" situation.
As I said before, this is a very personal decision only you as a family can make.
Thanks!</p>

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On a related note, he applied for an NROTC scholarship but has not heard anything. If he were to be awarded a scholarship, would he have heard by now? He completed it back in October. It's not that we are too concerned about it since he really doesn't need it now, but if we are forced to pursue the back up option it would be nice to know if there was a scholarship along with it.QUOTE]</p>

<p>My son has had the same experience with NROTC. He applied early on, but has heard nothing at all from them. He also applied for an AFROTC scholarship, barely made the deadline, and has already interviewed and been awarded their 4 yr scholarship.</p>

<p>Thanks to all of you! Great advice. My son is so excited about this he isn't thinking about the the other colleges at all - it's really me, just being a typical mom, I guess, and making sure he has a belt and suspenders! As was noted earlier, my main concern is some unexpected injury or illness that is out of all of our control.</p>

<p>If he has been accepted at a bunch of schools, it is only polite to contact all but your ultimate backup and tell them he isn't coming. While he does want to commit 110% to whatever academy, holding a deferred spot is certainly rational. Some may not like it, but this is a personal choice that is also dependent on his possibilities as well as the alternate school's policies. Some are not at all kind if you come back after commiting to an academy and some are.</p>

<p>Right... the deferred acceptance seems to make sense. Weski, we will definitely let everyone know well before May 1. The challenge is deciding which one is the one to accept - it depends to some extent on the scholarship outcome but we will probably go ahead and start weeding them out in the next couple of weeks even if we don't hear anything about NROTC.</p>