Acceptance rate for public schools

UCLA 17%
Michigan 26%

https://www.topuniversities.com/student-info/choosing-university/worlds-top-100-universities
umich 20th and brown far far down ? ???

@aamcgss you need to understand the methodology in rankings. That’s why they differ and some look really odd.
Honestly, you shouldn’t be choosing a college based on admit rates and ranking tables.

The rankings by USANews and similar groups are mostly circular - they use acceptance rates and reputation to calculate the ranking, so the higher they rank a school, the more people apply, and the lower the acceptance rate goes in a positive feedback loop. At the same time, they are using the reputation of colleges, based on the opinions of colleges administrators, whose knowledge of the reputation of a colleges comes from USANews rankings!

As for acceptance rates, the posted rates are the average acceptance rate over all demographics and all academic and activities profiles, and tell you little about the probability that any particular student will be accepted.

In any case, UCLA and Michigan are as good as any private research university.

I’m not choosing anything yet , I’m trying to know how umich and UCLA compare to others .name recognition still matters ( even if we don’t like it). I’ve heard umich is more reputable in the world than UCLA . (because of engineering school ???) bio ( my most likely major) I think is better at UCLA . Premed opportunities umich has a slight edge . Math ( second possible major ) definitely UCLA . UCLA > cutthroat for premeds .

O my god o my god I got in Berkeley

Life is so unfair I got denied from 11 private schools and got in five public schools including three top ones Berkeley UCLA UMich and my efc is 0 I want to cry

Why did you apply to public Us OOS when you knew they wouldn’t give you any $? If UMich is In state then you have a fine affordable option.

@aamcgss Michigan does provide good need-based aid for low income students. Did you hear about financial aid yet?

I have full ride from umich , but my dream school is UCB (50k) UCLA would be 30k

“Life is so unfair” and “I have a full ride from umich” …

Congratulations first and foremost. I have a hard time reconciling your two comments. Typically when receiving something amazing like a world class education one doesn’t perceive life as unfair. Instead you may want to reflect upon how lucky you are such that you live in a country where all of your hard work is being rewarded with an education being subsidized by taxpayers (many of whom have likely been denied admission to the very school you are to attend). Not to be harsh but get over it, be happy, do well and pay it forward when possible…you have been given a great gift.

200k debt is too much. I thought I would never get in ucb . Knowing I’m poor I applied to 11 privates 100% meet need , but I got denied from all of them .California that’s where my heart is …If I had no other option (free ride from umich ) I would definitely go . I also have free ride from state of Michigan , but that was my backup . If I had no umich option definitely would take a loan and go to UCB, but umich is up there in top three and free ride vs my top choice 200k and second choice 120k . I just need reassurance that umich will be as good as UCB and UCLA :frowning: as 18 old maybe I don’t understand how bad it is going to have 200k debt. Adaults around me are so exited about my free ride . No debt . I’m so excited about the idea of UCB:(

Deep in my heart I know you are right . I’m so overwhelmed . First of all eleven rejections.I cried a lot.I took it very personally. I though there was something wrong with me, my application.Now acceptance from my dream school and not be able to go. It’s too much in one week …I need to get away from all that negativity and reflect how lucky I’m .

I don’t understand why such a big difference in cost for UCB vs UCLA for out of state?
Anyway it’s a no-brainer to take the full ride at a really good school like Michigan. If your reluctance is based on some notion of admit rates then you really need to readjust your priorities.

By the way, you can’t take out $200k debt yourself anyway.

I don’t know . UCLA gave me a LOT 25k for aid + 6k federal grant . UCB gave me nothing just my federal grant.

As for the debt angle, here’s a quick illustration. I don’t know the specifics of student loans, but look up a debt amortization calculator online put in your loan, interest rate, expected start date of repayment etc, and see how much you would need to repay monthly once you are working, bearing in mind that your debt repayments will come out of what is left after tax, rent, food, transport etc. It should also show you what you will end up paying on interest in total - remember interest compounds.

So your $200k loan (if you could get a parent co-signing) - for example (again I don’t know exact terms so this is an illustration) a 5% interest rate on a $200k loan over 10 years will cost you over $50k in interest. And has roughly a $2k a month repayment (will be more for a student loan because you don’t start repaying immediately). That’s $2k you have to find, again, after tax, rent, food, transport … You can lower your repayment if you can take a longer term but then you end up paying more in interest eg over 15 years it comes down to around $1600 a month but then your total interest cost rises to $85k. Again - I don’t know the interest rates, terms etc but this should give you an idea of “why debt is so bad”.

By the way … I know exactly how you feel. I was in that exact same position about 30 years ago, acceptance to my dream school and just unable to make it happen financially. I know it hurts. But you have a fantastic alternative and you will make it work and be a success. Embrace UMich, know that you will be somewhere with a stellar reputation, and remember there’s always grad school! (…I eventually did end up at my dream school, some years later!)

Life being unfair is a little kid getting cancer. Not getting a free ride to UMich and not HYP.

U don’t know my life .My sister passed in her first grade . My father passed when I was in middle school . I had too many hardships in my life to name here emotionally financially. I spend years to treat my pshycologocal disorder pulling my hair uncontrollably ( my head was half bold ) emegine how was my middle school . Only bright spot/escape/driving force was for me to study hard to get myself to the best school. To start new life . To help my mom.So when I say life is not fair I meant all of that plus school …cause this was for me one and only thing that made my life worthwhile

Thanks everybody for your input .