<p>HI guys,</p>
<p>Im wanting to go to law school at my school, where I am currently an undergrad. Arizona state.</p>
<p>Ive read that minorities here have much easier chance of getting accepted as minority. statistics back this up, and it has become a bit of controversy.</p>
<p>my question is, im half hispanic but im white skined. Usually, i can still apply as a hispanic, but im wondering if that could back fire me on somehow?</p>
<p>You’ve gotta be kidding. Half Mexican is half Mexican. You really think they go around checking the color of people’s skin to verify if they are ethnic enough looking. This can backfire in no possible way whatsoever. If somehow it did, then you would have the easiest lawsuit almost ever. If you were all white and just said you were hispanic then you’d be ****ed when they found out you applied as an URM.</p>
<p>URM statues will soon become irrelevant as several states are processing laws which strike down the unfair application boosters. </p>
<p>Take advantage of it as soon as you can but don’t become complacent, as minorities are finding an equal footing in America the rate of successful students in Hispanic/African communities are rapidly increasing. A 3.0 URM GPA is no longer equivalent to a 3.5 standard GPA.</p>
<p>If you want to take advantage of a racist quota-filling stupid college deal then go for it, you unethical piece of monkey stroodle.</p>
<p>When was an URM 3.0 ever a 3.5???</p>
<p>LMAO</p>
<p>your race wont help as much as you think… if you have the stats go for it</p>
<p>My understanding is you usually have to write a little statement about how your minority status has affected your life or something like that if you plan on playing that card. I don’t think they’re going to yank admission in any event but you can just lay the facts on the table and let them make up their own minds.</p>
<p>@jonahrubin</p>
<p>Never heard of that, maybe you’re thinking of “how you overcame an adversity” …</p>
<p>Precognition:</p>
<p>How can you rationally fault an applicant for exploiting a legal advantage in such a competitive admissions climate as that of law school? (Moreover, how can you consider the OP’s decision a question of ethics?) I agree, AA is fundamentally unfair and will rightfully disappear soon, but it would be illogical for any URM (and indeed any applicant) not to take advantage of any and all legal, LSAC sanctioned means to help her case for admission. It’s been said before, and I’ll say it again: blame the game, not the players who are forced to play by its rules. Also, I think you meant “statutes.”</p>
<p>Precognition:</p>
<p>How can you rationally fault an applicant for exploiting a legal advantage in such a competitive admissions climate as that of law school? (Moreover, how can you consider the OP’s decision a question of ethics?) I agree, AA is fundamentally unfair and will rightfully disappear soon, but it would be illogical for any URM (and indeed any applicant) not to take advantage of any and all legal, LSAC sanctioned means to help her case for admission. It’s been said before, and I’ll say it again: blame the game, not the players who are forced to play by its rules. Also, I think you meant “statutes.”</p>
<p>a few of you have mentioned the inevitable disappearance of affirmative action. will it legally disappear, or is it more of an eventual agreement? if it legally disappears, is there an exact year that it’ll happen? just curious :)</p>
<p>[DeLoggio’s</a> Advice on Diversity Statements for Law School Admissions](<a href=“http://www.deloggio.com/essays%20&%20addenda/diversty.html]DeLoggio’s”>http://www.deloggio.com/essays%20&%20addenda/diversty.html)</p>
<p>This is just some advice on how to write a diversity statement for Law School.</p>
<p>First of all, URM status is considered a GPA boost because in most states, colleges have to fill quotas to reflect their state’s population.</p>
<p>For example, if New Jersey’s Hispanic population is %14, then Rutgers State University is almost required to accept %14 of their applicants as Hispanics.</p>
<p>The reason this gives an applicant with a low GPA an advantage is because Hispanics tend to have lower GPAs than Asians and Caucasians so a 3.0 for a Hispanic basically works like a 3.5 for an Asian applicant. </p>
<p>It’s a stupid-ass law that tries to give Hispanics and African-Americans and equal footing through discriminating against Asians and Caucasians.</p>
<p>@Precognition,
Tell me why do hispanic students lower the GPA standards ?Are you implying they are dumber that Asians ?If not, provide some good reasons why .Just out of curiousity, I am sure statistics can back you up.</p>
<p>Hispanics tend to have lower GPAs because a large percentage of their population lives in poverty. </p>
<p>Statistically speaking, middle to upper class students do better in school. </p>
<p>With that being said, it is still unfair to assume all Hispanics need that kind of boost. </p>
<p>I believe that Affirmative Action needs to be more economically-based, and fortunately that’s what it’s turning into at this point.</p>
<p>OK, this is kind of off-topic, but let me ask, isnt it the most normal thing for people living in poverty to strive for a better living, therefore doing better in school and college ?Vice versa, isnt it normal for middle to upper class (upper class especially) to have a pretty nice living and not have the motivation to achive more at school and improve their life ?
The point I am trying to make is that the unprivileged can`t just say ‘‘we are poor so we need to be understood and be guaranteed high class education just because we live in poverty’’ .This sounds too convinient.Back in the 60s , yes, minorities had lower political rights, this is different, but know everyone is supposed to be equal in front of the law.So, if it is racist for me to identify a black/hispanic person with someone below my level, someone under my class, someone whose ‘‘brain power’’ is inferior to mine , for instance, how is not being racist that he/she can go to law school with lower grades ?</p>
<p>Precognition:</p>
<p>You’ve established what many already know to be true: AA is a flawed system and it adversely affects applicants who are not Black, Hispanic, or Native American. How can you justify not taking advantage of it if you are a URM applicant, let alone call the OP unethical?</p>
<p>@overachiever91 The reason people from struggling backgrounds do poorly in our public school systems consists of a variety of unpleasant factors</p>
<ol>
<li><p>Lack of resources
-It’s perfectly possible to attain the resources and do well in your academic pursuits, even if you’re homeless, but it’s much easier if you’re very well provided for by high income parents. </p></li>
<li><p>Genetic inferiority
-This is a very inconvenient truth, but chances are that collectively, the upper class is the upper class because they had the genes necessary to be successful. Of course there’s too many exceptions, but I believe that genetic factors are at least %70 of the reasons our social hierarchy is built the way it is today(and no, this isn’t a statement about race as I believe that collectively, under proper conditions(i.e no established system of discrimination) we are all equal). </p></li>
<li><p>Unstable upbringing
-It’s tough to concentrate on schoolwork and understand the significance of it and how it can pay dividends for you in the future when you have struggling parents and a lacking support base. </p></li>
</ol>
<p>All of these factors affect the success rate of students from low-income families. I understand this full-well as I come from a single mother who immigrated from Russia and then became a widow, all when I was 9. </p>
<p>School was very hard for me, and I didn’t reach my potential until well-into high school when I finally started to perform well in my academic pursuits.</p>
<p>@wayward_trojan </p>
<p>I understand what you’re saying, one should look to find any assistance necessary, but morals should not be forgotten and pride should be taken into account. Are you satisfied achieving a goal, only because the goal was lowered for you because you’re underestimated?</p>
<p>Ironically, I’m in general agreement with your statements regarding affirmative action, but you cannot presuppose that all URMs would not have been admitted without the help AA. Many would not have, but I suspect a large number would in fact be competitive regardless. </p>
<p>Sadly, such a system inevitably creates at best self-doubt and at worst self-loathing in its participants, but again, I would fault the game, not its players.</p>