Acceptance without SAT II Scores?

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<p>I plan on submitting only my ACT score (33) for regular decision review. I scored a 2100 on the SAT I and 770 on Math Level 2/ 650 on Spanish...I had a serious hiccup on the Spanish test, obviously. The problem is that my Spanish teacher is writing one of my recommendations, and I am undoubtedly one of the best spanish students he has seen in his career--so it would be odd to see a 650 SAT II score in that subject. </p>

<p>My question is: Will my chances of admission be diminished by only sending my ACT score...even if the SAT IIs are only "strongly recommended"?</p>

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<p>take the spanish again. if u dont get a high score on the sat2 spanish, its hard to take your spanish teacher's rec seriously.</p>

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<p>probably, "strongly recommended" seriously equals "required"</p>

<p>since it's RD, you can still take Spanish again...</p>

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<p>Yes, your chances will be diminished without SAT IIs. 650 on a language test is not bad at all - those are hard because the native speakers take them, and drive up the curve. Your score will even satisfy Stanford foreign lang requirement:
<a href="http://language.stanford.edu/requirement/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://language.stanford.edu/requirement/&lt;/a>
But if there is any other subject where you could score higher, you should probably do it, just to a have higher number on your app. It will not make or break you app either way.</p>

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<p>What about if I got a 530 SAT II French, because I only had 2 years when I took it (I have 2 other SAT IIs, so it won't be counted) but my French teacher wrote my rec? WIll they take his rec less seriously?</p>

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<p>Do you have to send in SAT IIs separately? Or is it all on your score reports when you send an SAT record/full report thingy?</p>

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<p>Hmm...the problem is that I can only retake the Spanish test (and when I do, I expect 740+) on the December 3rd test date. Will Stanford get my score in time, even if I use the rush-scoring service? </p>

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<p>Agh! I've been so stressed out lately. Basically, Stanford is my dream school, but I don't feel I've got the goods to get in. Columbia U is probably second on my list, which I feel equally uncomfortable about. I tell myself to be realistic, but everyone seems to convince me that I have a "shot" at getting accepted (probably a better chance at Columbia.) So I figured, since I'm not 100% set on Pomona, I'd apply regular decision to all of my schools (Stanford, Columbia, Pomona, Swarthmore, U Chicago). University of Michigan is my safety. </p>

<p>Could you guys evaluate my chances? I know it's a "crap-shoot", but I just want to know if there's a decent chance that I can get into Stanford or Columbia. I feel semi-confident about Pomona and Swarthmore, considering I'd be recruited for golf at both schools...</p>

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<p>*White male from competitive public HS.
*Upper-middle class suburb in Michigan.
*No legacy. Parents both have BA degrees. </p>

<p>Academics:
- Top 10% (school does not rank)
- W/UW GPA: 4.03/3.93 <strong>(excluding 9th grade: 4.15/4.0)</strong>
- Most rigorous classes (all honors/advanced/accelerated/AP)
- AP Classes: 7 (School offers 13 or so)
AP Biology (11)
AP U.S. History (11)
AP English Lit (12)
AP World History (12)
AP BC* Calculus (12) *Highest level math offered
AP U.S. Government/Politics (12)
AP Spanish (12)
- ACT Score: 33 (36 E, 35 M, 30 R, 29 S, 36 E/W (12 Essay))
- SAT II Scores: Math Level 2 -- 770, Spanish -- 650
- AP Scores: AP Bio: 5; AP U.S. Hist: 5. </p>

<p>Achievements/Honors:
- Honor roll (9,10,11,(12))
- National Honors Society
- Youth Assistance Recognition Award (given to 5 of our HS students/year, for "outstanding character and contribution to the community")
- All-State/All-Academic Team for Golf (Average team GPA of 3.88)</p>

<p>Activities/Extracurriculars:
- Gay-Straight Alliance (11,12). President (12). I will be an elected official for the Southeast Michigan Regional Gay-Straight Alliance...maybe the president? (I'll know by December)
- Golf team: (9, 10, 11<em>, 12</em>) *Varsity
- National Honors Society: Member (11), Executive Board (12)
- Drama/Theater (9,10,11,12). Leading/supporting rolls.
- Diversity Club Member (11,12) (Part of Anti-Defamation League program)
- Art Club Member (9,10)</p>

<p>Volunteering:
- Volunteer/Cultural Immersion Program in Guatemala (spent two weeks at an orphanage): ~150 hours
- Tutoring: 10,11. (~50 hours)
- Library volunteer: 9,10 (~80 hours)
- Volunteer for M.L.K day: 11 (~10 hours)
- Other various volunteering tasks through NHS.</p>

<p>Work Experience:
-Golf Caddy (summer job) for two years...saved earnings in bank account</p>

<p>Special Interest:
- Philosophy..huge passion! (Taking an independent study in philosophy this year...designed curriculum with social studies teacher. I've made several online 'publications' (nothing really "scholarly", though)). I've devoted a substantial amount of my time to reading books on philosophy.</p>

<p>*Teacher recs are outstanding (one teacher (who is actually a professor at the University of Michigan) showed me his letter--it was amazing, and told me that he filled out all the "best I've seen in my career" boxes. My Spanish teacher, like I said above, probably wrote an amazing letter too.)
*Essays will be excellent, hopefully.
*Great counselor rec
*Interviews (non-Stanford): My Pomona interview went very well--I came across as very passionate. The same will happen probably happen at the other schools.</p>

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<p>Any comments would be very much appreciated!!!</p>

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<p>"Do you have to send in SAT IIs separately? Or is it all on your score reports when you send an SAT record/full report thingy?"</p>

<p>I don't think you have to send it again. I just received my SAT score report (for October SAT II) today and it had all both my SAT I and II scores, so I think colleges will get the same type of report.</p>

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<p>TSA, I think you have a decent shot (for RD, that's around 13%), because all your EC's and test scores seem average. Just make sure you show your passion in your essays.</p>

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<p>TSA, you'll be a very competitive applicant to all of your schools. December scores will get to Stanford on time even without rushing, I think, but you should probably call the admissions and ask. Your interests and activities do make you stand out, so your chances are way above 13%. That said, you should have some back-up plan. Luckily for you, you are in-state for UMich...</p>