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<p>And the applicants they didn’t admit were partially below the averages and partially ABOVE, making them somehow “overqualified.”</p>
<p>Yeah, look at this thread to see some seriously “over-qualified wait-listed kids”.</p>
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<p>One thing I saw is that some of the high-stats kids applied for PPSP, which I suspect is their full-ride, automatic medical thingy. It looks like they might have wait-listed all the kids who didn’t get it, assuming those kids wouldn’t be attending if they didn’t get it. That would make some sense on their part …</p>
<p>@daddio3,
If you think there aren’t ANY highly qualified applicants out of the 7000+ students that CASE did offer admissions to, then there is indeed a problem. And being a parent of a CASE student and meeting and getting to know some of her peers, I can state that CASE doesn’t just look at numbers. They, like most universities are looking for well rounded students from a variety of backgrounds. And just so you are clear, universities are not allowed to see what other colleges and universities receive a copy of the FAFSA or CSS. </p>
<p>As I stated earlier, accept your spot on the WL if you want to and move on to your other opportunities while keeping in touch with CWRU. If you never intended to accept your admission, why do you care? Move on and focus on the choices you do have! It does no good to complain. CWRU is a PRIVATE institute and can decide not to admit applicants (as over qualified as they may be) if they believe they are NOT going to accept. They do not discriminate based on FA needs. They may not offer FA to students being offered a spot of the WL if there are no funds available.</p>
<p>As a parent of a current student, I have only praise for the University. They have been even better than I hoped they would at offering my daughter a great education, college experience, and generous with our personal FA needs. The staff has always been courteous and helpful and returned my calls, answered my questions, etc. </p>
<p>I can only hope that your son or daughter finds a university that fits their needs and offers them the same great experience. I wish you the best and hope you get over the anger of your child being WL’d. I understand, as my DD was denied and WL’d at some of her hopeful college choices too. But it worked out in the end and if your child applied to a variety of universities, I believe it will work out for your family too.</p>
<p>@BluePoodle, I think Case is a good school, and I know there are fabulous students there. But what they did, soliciting high-end students and then waitlisting a lot of them is wrong, and I stand by that. Did you look at the kids on the thread I posted? As for the money, Case is need-aware – look it up anywhere. By definition, that means they DO discriminate based on FA needs. Now schools like Reed only do it for the marginal kids, so maybe Case is the same way, and I actually believe that is a great business model. Lots of good schools are also need-aware, but for you to say they are not is just misinformed.</p>
<p>Besides agreeing with you that it IS a good school, and that yes, there are some strong students there, you are also right that it is time for me to move on. My kid got two schools he really wanted, so you are right that I really don’t care. But some kids did care and had the stats, ECs, and showed sufficient interest to deserve to be admitted. They were waitlisted because their applications were too strong, and that is a travesty.</p>
<p>@daddio3,
Well then I guess we will have to just agree to disagree then. </p>
<p>According to CollegeBoard’s website:
<a href=“BigFuture College Search”>BigFuture College Search;
<p>“This school practices need-blind admissions.”
72% Applied for needs based FA
86% Were judged to have a Need & 86% were offered FA
70% Received 100% FA Meet (Although I know Loans were included in this number)</p>
<p>EVERY school solicits “high-end” students and NOT every one of those students gets accepted. Not every “deserving” student CAN be admitted. It’s a small school and even if they accepted those with perfect GPA’s and Test Scores, they would still have to reject some students. And honestly, those are not the only factors that make a “Strong or Deserving” student. </p>
<p>Those who were WL’d by CASE, if they really want in and plead their case and were THAT strong of an applicant, will be considered if they have spots available from the WL. But I fail to see how CASE’s marketing to these so called “high-end” students is any different than Ivies, or UofChicago, Northwestern, Vandy, Rice, etc WashU are any different? They too solicit to these students and they too reject and wait list these students. Is a WL any different than a rejection really? Only based on how the student responds. If the student pursues the school and can make their case, they MAY have chance. Does it matter that they received tons of marketing material or had free app or paid a fee? No! </p>
<p>Last point, It was nice of you to also concede that there are “SOME” strong students at CASE. Again, just glad I don’t have to deal with parents and my DD doesn’t have to deal with students that feel this way about them and their school because that would also be a travesty.</p>
<p>I will say one more time that Case is a very good school, and I apologize for my wording that last part – there are LOTS of strong students at Case, and there are some AMAZING ones (similar to the ones I have been referring to who were waitlisted). I hope you are right that they will find room for some of those amazing waitlisted kids who really wanted to go there.</p>
<p>I actually used Wikipedia, which says they are neither need-blind nor give full need to students. If you have better information, perhaps you can get the Wiki entry fixed :-)</p>
<p>I guess I see what you are saying regarding their marketing – I have lost count of how many U Chicago brochures I have recycled.</p>
<p>But I really believe they looked at all the kids who applied and deserved large merit scholarships, and the kids they chose not to give a scholarship were waitlisted rather than accept them with smaller merit and have them go elsewhere. So they were waitlisting worthy kids to protect yield, which was my whole point. They should have accepted those kids with smaller merit IF they showed interest, and taken the little yield hit that may have resulted.</p>
<p>As a parent of a high-stat kid (ACT: 35; GPA: 3.93 UW; top 3 in his class; 10 AP/college courses; several national awards; multiple ECs) who was heavily solicited by Case with mailings, phone calls and e-mails and was subsequently accepted with a $30K/year merit scholarship, I am thrilled. The school wasn’t even on his radar before he started receiving the communications, but now it is at the top of his list. So the heavy marketing worked, at least in our situation – it made us aware of the merits of a school that we might not have considered because it is located outside of our region, and Case got another application from a high-stat kid that helped push their numbers up. It is what it is. Every college does the same thing to plump up their application pool. Every college is concerned about their yield rate. I could live warmly for several months off the flames from the multiple brochures my DS got in the mail from Yale, UChicago, Northwestern, Harvard, Princeton and others if we were to use them as kindling. Are those schools any different/better in marketing to recruit high-stat kids, only to reject them later? </p>
<p>In addition, I am particularly thrilled to hear @BluePoodle’s comments about the experience her daughter has had at Case – particularly in regards to the interaction with the courteous and helpful staff. We’ve already crossed Rensselaer off the list because of what we’ve felt has been a rather dismissive and curt attitude from staff members there. </p>
<p>@amiable you’ve made a good point. The keeping warm for several months comment is cute. lol</p>
<p>@LanaHere – this past winter in New England has been brutal, so my thoughts are constantly turning towards the warmth of the woodstove! 
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<p>@amiable :)) </p>
<p>But I wish all of the CWRU admitted students the best. It’s an excellent school. You all did great. Congrats.</p>
<p>@amiable, Congrats on your sons acceptance and award from CASE. Good luck to him on making his final decision. My DD is beginning her research on Grad schools now and although it is not the same as undergrad college shopping, I still hate the process!</p>
<p>Back in the day (1986) I too became aware of Case because of the incessant mailings. I ended up going there too!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Case didn’t send me any packages! But I did have a very helpful advisor who encouraged me to apply to Case. I’m currently an admit who has decided on Case. My stats are rather average though, I’d have to say. Seeing the WL thread gives me conflicted feelings.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Case didn’t send me any packages! But I did have a very helpful advisor who encouraged me to apply to Case. I’m currently an admit who has decided on Case. My stats are rather average though, I’d have to say. Seeing the WL thread gives me conflicted feelings.</p>
<p>OP here, just got accepted off the waitlist with considerable scholarship and FA. I will not be attending in the fall, however. </p>
<p>Just got rejected from the waitlist. I would likely not have attended anyways. However, I am quite resentful towards CWRU because I was deferred (from EA, I even wrote the ‘optional’ essay), then waitlisted (I made it my ‘top’ choice), now denied.</p>
<p>Rejected from the waitlist as well. Really disappointed as I sent follow up information from several science fairs I won this season and an essay expressing this curiosity and would’ve went if I got in. Guess I really am going to my state university…It may have been that 79 in IB math…Is it possible to appeal or is that really not recommended? For those wondering: SAT:2050/3.6UW/4.0W/research/100+hours volunteer</p>
<p>where can I check the status? Im currently at the page that checks off all the required documents. i don’t see any status information</p>