Accepted to UC Berkeley and USC for business. Which would you choose?

<p>Except for Wharton/MIT Sloan.</p>

<p>I've complained for years about UCLA not having an undergraduate business school--but there seems to be no push by UCLA's main administration or the leaders of the business school to change the status quo. I presume it relates to state funding for higher education being very limited.</p>

<p>futurenyustudent, I don't know if you noticed but UCLA receives more freshman applications than any school in the country--and NYU receives more freshman applications than any private school in the country--so good luck--and get ready for that Stern curve I mentioned above.</p>

<p>Calcruzer,</p>

<p>It may also be that the Biz--econ program is relatively successful in meeting that goal. Too high of a marginal cost then, maybe? :p</p>

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...these schools have extremely large networks of their own. In fact, there are actually more living graduates from these schools (Cal and ucla) than from USC.

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<p>You're wrong..if you're talking about biz school grads. Google this yourself: Marshall has over 67,000 alumni (from Wikipedia online), Haas has 36,000 (Haas website), Anderson has over 34,000 (Anderson website).</p>

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...but now many think USC has gone overboard, since the highest grade average allowed now in any class is 2.67. This is something you will have to learn to accept if you go to Marshall--and which isn't as restrictive at UC Berkeley's Haas school.

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<p>Wrong again: I have no idea where the 2.67 came from; Marshall's actual class GPA allowed is 2.85 (exactly halway between B and B-). I personally don't know what Haas' numbers is, nor do i really care, but from what i hear Cal as a whole is ultra-competitive and i don't see why Haas would be any different..</p>

<p>Apparently, research is not a major point of emphasis in the Anderson curriculum.</p>

<p>ooo i suspect a USC vs. UCLA rivalry comin up :)</p>

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You're wrong..if you're talking about biz school grads. Google this yourself: Marshall has over 67,000 alumni (from Wikipedia online), Haas has 36,000 (Haas website), Anderson has over 34,000 (Anderson website).

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<p>I believe Calcruzer was referring to living alumni in general, not necessarily from the MBA program.</p>

<p>Living Alumni:
UCLA - 350,000
USC - 180,000</p>

<p><a href="http://www.uclalumni.net/NetworkingCareers/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.uclalumni.net/NetworkingCareers/&lt;/a>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Southern_California&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Apparently, research is not a major point of emphasis in the Anderson curriculum.

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<p>Research really isn't a major point of emphasis in most MBA programs.</p>

<p>I don't know if my opinions will help, but anyway...I was in a similar situation with you before except that I got into Haas as a transfer, and Cornell's ILR instead of Marshall. I think Haas is a very presitigious school in the West Coast and employers do give merit to Haas graduates. On the other hand, USC, as a private school, has a very strong alumni network (i'm not saying it's not the case in Haas, but just comparatively speaking). You shouldn't have too much trouble finding a job no matter which of the two schools you go.
Well, my friend (she's currently a haas student) said that once you got into Haas, it's not as hard as you think. Sometimes students in ECON major might have a harder time than ppl in Haas. But of course after all, where you go still depends on where you like the most. Why don't you go on a campus visit to both schools if you have time? I think that might help. For me, I chose Cornell over Haas simply because of better environment for me personally. Good luck! and Congrat. to you that you got into two fabulous schools :-)</p>

<p>What UCLA vs USC rivalry? Ha-Ha. </p>

<p>Hey, we both finished 2nd this year in a major sport (USC in football, UCLA in basketball)--so neither one of us got the NCAA title we felt we deserved. And if you want to get into it, yes USC has lots of NCAA football titles and UCLA has only one, and UCLA in basketball has 10 titles and USC I think has none, but UCLA has won more NCAA titles overall than any other school.</p>

<p>But I was comparing the grading at Marshall vs. Haas, and trying to point out that most Marshall b-students consider it too tough--at least my friends that went to Marshall do (I got the 2.67 number from them, okay). </p>

<p>Trojanman720, let's presume it's halfway between a B/B- then. Take a look at some of the Trojan comments on the studentsreview.com site. About half the people from the business department posting on there just out-and-out hate the grading curve--and if you go to the NYU Stern site, either on collegeconfidential or studentsreview, you'll see similar comments at NYU. I just thinnk that this tough grading curve should be considered by students when deciding where to go.</p>

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ooo i suspect a USC vs. UCLA rivalry comin up

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Here's the problem with that statement: implicit in the word "rivalry" is that the 2 competing forces are of comparable worthiness, which in this case ucla clearly is not...i wouldn't call this a "rivalry" as i'd call a fight between a lion and a puppy a "fair contest". </p>

<p>No, no, all kidding aside, i'm sure that both ucla and ucb are fine public academic institutions.......for me to poop on!!! ~triumph </p>

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Research really isn't a major point of emphasis in most MBA programs.

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Really? i had no idea! i thought MBA programs were all about hardcore research? Thanks for clearing that up for me! :)</p>

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Take a look at some of the Trojan comments on the studentsreview.com site. About half the people from the business department posting on there just out-and-out hate the grading curve--and if you go to the NYU Stern site, either on collegeconfidential or studentsreview, you'll see similar comments at NYU.

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First off, you gotta understand the type of ppl posting on that site: those ppl chastizing the grading curve are probably the ones too lazy to study or too dumb to pass the tests. They don't speak for the marshall ug population.</p>

<p>OK, i'll condede that marshall is not a breeze; profs simply don't hand out A's by the hundreds here like they might at other b-schools, but if you put in the work, you'll get the grade.</p>

<p>dont hate because UCLA students are smarter than you, trojanman!</p>

<p>UCLA is overrated.</p>

<p>But then, so is science.:)</p>

<p>futurenyustudent, you're overrated. :eek:</p>

<p>futurenyustudent,</p>

<p>I hate science too! I mean, what has science ever done for us? </p>

<p>Oh yeah, other than medicine, computers, cars, airplanes. Pfft, who needs those?</p>

<p>Here's the problem with that statement: implicit in the word "rivalry" is that the 2 competing forces are of comparable worthiness, which in this case ucla clearly is not...i wouldn't call this a "rivalry" as i'd call a fight between a lion and a puppy a "fair contest".</p>

<p>jeez im sorry i was just enjoying you guys debate.......</p>

<p>I think he was attacking UCLA for being an inferior school, not your post.</p>

<p>P.S. UCLA sucks.</p>

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what has science ever done for us?

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<p>This is a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it anyway. Let's see....scientists were responsible for Chernobyl, the atomic, hydrogen and nuclear bombs, various biological and chemical weapons, the advent of guns, dynamite, TNT, cheesy scifi movies, and virtually every destructive weapon in existance today (jet fuel included...just kidding about the jet fuel part).</p>

<p>How should I explain this....</p>

<p>NYU is my favorite university in the world. NYU is NOT in LA. In LA we have USC and UCLA. USC has 16k people. NYU has 20k people. Both USC and NYU have their share of rich kids. Both USC and NYU have their share of dumb/smart kids. Both USC Marshall and NYU Stern are excellent for finance and ibanking in their respective regions. Both USC and NYU are private. USC has no campus. Neither does NYU. NYU is in New York, USC is in Los Angeles. Therefore, USC is the Los Angeles version of NYU. Naturally I would choose USC over UCLA if I HAD to choose a school on the west coast.</p>

<p>Funnyman BTW your MOM is overrated. :)</p>

<p>USC has no campus? since when?</p>

<p>Fine scratch that. But USC STILL resembles NYU better than UCLA.</p>