<p>But will you need stats to graduate? If so will it cost more in tuition for you to have to retake it than you will lose in ACG.
Or maybe you can clep it in a year 
(if your school accepts Stats clep)</p>
<p>Good luck. Do let is know how it works out.</p>
<p>Nope. I have calc as my math requirement 
lol.</p>
<p>I would actually have to only take 12 credits next semester to keep me under the 56 credit mark that would make me a junior, but it is impossible to take only 12 credits :(. </p>
<p>I am going to go try to work with the financial aid people and I really do want to write to my representative about this. They should have kept it saying 1st and 2nd year students rather than freshmen/sophomores. Especially when (I BELIEVE) each school has a different credit requirement for freshmen, sophomore, etc standing.</p>
<p>Oh do any of you have a link that shows what the new rules say about the GPA transferring (for the ACG) or about the new eligibility things? I literally had to print out something last time and show them from the Department of Education website to show them that I was allowed to do something (not ACG related, actually I donāt know what it was regarding now lol!) :(.</p>
<p>True. The 2 schools I am most familiar with have 30 hours as a requirement for Sophomore standing and 60 hours for Junior standing (well 60 at the U my daughter is at, the CC does not have Junior standing of course).</p>
<p>The way it was before, with a minimum credit/week progression for ACG & SMART, was really confusing & there were a lot of students who lost eligibility that way, too. Swimcatsmom, didnāt your D get caught up in that & lose some of her grant eligibility?</p>
<p>I will look for the presentation on the web. The print out I have is internal (it was sent to our office when we signed up for the webinar). I am sure itās out there somewhere ā I will pm it to you if I can find it. The regs themselves donāt actually explain about the dual enrollment credits. Like many things in financial aid, we have to attend training in order to find out how the rules actually are applied in real life. I am sure I can find the slides somewhere on the web for you.</p>
<p>Thanks so much kelsmom. I have been looking for the last 20 minutes or so, but to be perfectly honest I am not sure exactly what I am looking for lol.</p>
<p>No she didnāt. She was actually a little short on credit hours to be SMART eligible at the end of spring semester as she dropped a class last semester, but her summer classes brought her up to the right level. I was originally worried she would have problems with the SMART for the senior as under the old rules she would have had too many credit hours for the senior year (because of the summer classes this year). But I think the rules now make it that it shouldnāt be a problem. I have been keeping a close eye on the rules since she was a freshman trying to keep ahead of them so she wouldnāt lose eligibility. They donāt make it easy when they keep changing the goal line all the time.</p>
<p>Ok, I found the slide that kelsmom was talking about. It says: </p>
<p>If sophomore due to combination of AP/IB and dual enrollment credits</p>
<pre><code>* Has dual enrollment credit grades; could be eligible
</code></pre>
<p>Could be eligible? Does any one know what the could means? I just want to have all my ducks in a row before I go to to the FA office (itās a long trip so Iād prefer to only have to make one lol).</p>
<p>OP: are you actually using your AP credits to skip beginning classes? My DD only skipped one of the courses for which she could have received credits via AP scores. If something like that affect you, could you ask the registrar to drop the ones you donāt need?</p>
<p>For example, if you took the calc AP but you still are taking calc at university, could you drop those AP units?</p>
<p>If the dual enrollment grade doesnāt work then I am going to drop my stats credit. The rest of them basically need for undergrad requirements that I donāt want to give up unless absolutely neccessary.</p>
<p>āCOULDā is will if you have at least a 3.0 gpa for any and all graded credits that are transferred in. Even one grade is enough to get you the ACG, as long as itās at least a 3.0. This issue was specifically addressed by the federal trainer during our webinar.</p>
<p>But itās too late if I have 81 credits already, right? 43 of those are advanced credit.</p>
<p>(It isnāt fair! Iām only in my 3rd semester and I still have to do all 4 years!)</p>
<p>Why do you have to do all 4 years? And yes, that would put you well over the āsophomoreā limit.</p>
<p>Um, because I have very wide interests, I am dual-majoring (possibly triple majoring) and I still need all 4 years to complete my majors? Itās not like all those AP /dual-enrollment courses add up to a sequence. (And 18 of those credits come from math courses, and hell no Iām not majoring in math. Math is a tool for science, not an end unto itself.)</p>
<p>If you are not using those AP units to skip out of classes for which you need creidt to graduate (18 math units) can you ask the registrar to delete those units?</p>
<p>Ok, so Iām actually really nervous now. The ACG was taken off last week no problem. Which is fine, because at this point all it would do is reduce my work-study and I am absolutely in love with my job (helping refugee kids learn English). </p>
<p>But now my financial aid package is āUnder reviewā. The reason I am so nervous is because I just realized that $1k of my package is for FRESHMEN. Ugh ugh ugh. So tomorrow I am just going to go in and drop a few credits so I can go back down to being a freshmen. </p>
<p>I have had probably the worst few days of my life and I am not in the mood to go fight with the FA office over this :(.</p>
<p>Gosh you are going through the ringer right now. At my daughters school AP credits and dual enrollment credits are not added to the transcript until after the student has completed the first semester so freshman awards are kept safe. They do warn the students to be careful of taking summer classes at a CC between HS graduation and starting in the fall as that might make the student a transfer student. The AP and dual credits get added to the CC transcript and may bump it up to sufficient hours to make the student a transfer student and ineligible for freshman scholarships. But otherwise APs and dual enrollments do not affect freshman awards at her school. Hopefully it is the same at your school. (the ACG is different because it is under federal regs).</p>
<p>Check with the FA office why your aid is under review before you drop anything.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>So. Went to the FA office today, they were a boatload of help (sarcasm).
Lost my freshmen grant. My ACG is gone. The Spartan Advantage Program (which is SUPPOSED to give poverty income students a full ride basically except for a loan of about 1k and WS) that I had originally received, but lost due to outside scholarships putting me over the COA is gone. </p>
<p>The āACGā specialist is supposed to contact me today about the sophomore grant.</p>
<p>So, just to summarize. My low-loan year turned into losing $1,000 because the state of Michigan canāt get their crap together; $1,000 because I am NOT a freshmen, but rather a sophomore (darn me for taking dual enrollment credits and the U not processing those credits until the end of September); $750 because I am not qualified for the ACG anymore; and if I didnāt get a $5,000 outside scholarship, then I would still be loan free because I would have the Spartan Advantage grants. </p>
<p>I am not mad about taking extra loans because I know I am lucky to only have about $4k worth of loans for one year. However I am furious because I have been a sophomore since I applied and the U just didnāt process my credits until the end of September, leaving me with a lot less FA.</p>
<p>Even with my work-study, I canāt make up that extra money because most of my money goes to help my parents. We make under 20k a year and my dad has really high medical expenses from a car accident 6 years ago. Plus, my mom is fighting Graves disease and can barely afford her medicine. To top it all off, I have to miss school part of next week to go to a very dear friendās funeral. Too much stress for the beginning of my college career.</p>
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<p>But I need them for my engineering and science courses! I donāt think Iām about to throw away my credit for linear algebra and introductory abstract algebraā¦those were challenging courses lol.</p>