The US addressed the problem. China, Korea and Hong Kong has not.
The CB and the ACT are not Chinese, Korean, or HK companies, and this problem is not one that national governments are likely to care much about (nor should they), but the CB has at least made nominal attempts at increasing test security (locked boxes, for instance).
If we’re so desirous of “simple” solutions, the obvious one is obvious: stop recycling tests.
That is sidestepping the issue. The US addressed the one kid cheating and tightened up requirements for proper identification before taking the test. It does not matter if the CB or ACT were Polish or Icelandic- the problem is at the USER end. Fix the cheating at the test site. Don’t just tell the company to double lock the doors so the cheaters can’t get in so easily. STOP CHEATING.
Ironically, this popped up on linkedin today (look on one’s own linked in account)
This still does not excuse rampant cheating to get into a US school.
^ I wonder if that refers to Chinese grads of US colleges or Chinese grads of Chinese Us?
The first sentence says University in China. I haven’t read the full article.
No, “the US” didn’t do that–the College Board did. The same College Board that needs to step up its test security elsewhere and stop recycling tests. The ACT is in the same boat. This isn’t about countries–it’s about processes and systems that are poorly designed and leave the door open for the most pernicious forms of cheating.
And of course I agree with this:
I wasn’t sure if it referred to students now back home. I’ll check LInkedIn.
It’s semantics @marvin100. The testing companies seem to have a greater level of cooperation in the US, so yes, in the US the issue was addressed. There are no massive, rampant cheating rings that go out of their way to compromise the testing process like in many Asian countries. The corruption needs to be addressed. If CB was able to rectify the cheating incident in the US, but cannot in the other countries, seems the problem cannot be largely dumped on CB.
Lord have mercy.
Golly, let’s make the 2,000 high school students of military families in Korea board a plane all the way to Guam and Hawaii in order to take the tests. What a stupid idea. Not recycling tests would solve the problem altogether. Let’s also make students report to test centers at 9 pm and send them home at 1 am. Surely if they want to attend college in their hometowns they will have to do so.
The only cheating that is going on in Asia is with released tests. Time and time again, the two testing companies use recycled tests and test prep companies get this information… and guess what they have the test in their hand. It’s time for the “non-profit organizations” to stop being whining babies.
Testing companies have a greater level of cooperation in the US because CB and ACT’s new tests are first released in the US. If they want to make profit, they use those same tests that were probably leaked after the US administration and use that test internationally.
Again, Asia cheating scandals are not isolated. They occur in the US.
http://blog.prepscholar.com/cheating-on-the-sat-spreads-to-the-united-states
Here’s a more recent scandal if you doubt. The test CB was planning on using for the May administration in 2015 was leaked. IN THE USA. CB did not take action.
No one said there isn’t some cheating elsewhere. But the best defense is not offense. Clean your own house.
I love your red herrings @jym626. They’re everywhere! And yes, I cleaned my house just yesterday. Have you?
If you are really new to cc, it might behoove you to look at the many many threads on this very issue. Same song, not even a different verse. Feel free to deny the massive, rampant cheating in Asia.
This assumption doesn’t match my experience. If anything, I think it’s the opposite–here in Korea, at least, the Department of Education, the Prosecutor’s Office, and even the police are heavily involved in investigations at virtually all times.
Sounds like there are a lot of issues with these tests. Have there been any similar issues with graduate school entrance exams to anyone’s knowledge?
@marvin,
When there is this level of corruption there is usually a mole or other insider helping the criminals. Just a thought.
@marvin100 - I oppose cheating. If CB and ACT can stop some instances of cheating they should do so no matter where the cheating occurs. The biggest issue is recycling tests. Time zone issues also exist. Whenever a process is competitive some people will try to cheat.
I agree wholeheartedly, @Proudpatriot . There is blame to go around: Cheaters are to blame for being dishonest and hurting innocent test-takers with their greed and lack of integrity; the CB and ACT are to blame for lax test security and the inexcusable practice of test recycling.
My “pragmatic” view is that the latter is more easily fixed than the former.
@jym626 - sure. I hope they’re caught and punished severely.