ACT/SAT improvements from without Ext. Time to with Ext. Time

<p>And while you're at it, if your child will qualify for double time accommodation, which automatically gives him/her the possibility of taking the SAT over two days, you must have your school apply SEPARATELY for two-day administration of AP exams. Unfortunately, we didn't know this and neither did the school, and consequently my son's AP's are 7 1/2 hours long. This is particularly horrible with the ones that begin in the afternoon, as the CB will not allow the students to start in the morning, eat lunch, and take the second half in the afternoon. Oh no, instead they have to stay there until 7:30 at night. And this is leveling the playing field? The CB strikes again.</p>

<p>ADD/ADHD - 50% increase, 25 to 30 w/extra time</p>

<p>results from june 7 SAT out in 10 days. Let me know how you did. So will I.</p>

<p>28 yrs old diagnosed ADD at 27…took SAT in HS in 99 and got 1210 (no writing portion back then). Just took SATs again yesterday as I seek to transfer from com col to university. Did not even attempt to fill out all that red tape paperwork to get ext time espescially after I asked the disabilties office at my CC if they’d help and they looked at me like I was crazy. Wishing I had the extra time, failed to complete 7 questions on one part and felt rushed on a few others but we’ll see.</p>

<p>1210 (when it’s just verbal and math) is not a great, but not a horrible score either. Did you go to a community college rather than a 4-year one because of the SAT score? Or was there some other reason.</p>

<p>In my case, I took my SATs in May and June of 2001 and got a 630V 630M first time and 680V 670M the second time.</p>

<p>Wow, found myself back on this website 8 months later, but to answer your question, back in 99 I was grant a full academic scholarship to local university. Although I did not possess the ability to organize and read massive amounts of material b/c of my ADD back then which was undiagnosed at the time. So I dropped out at the time, several years later came back to CC because it was close to where I lived and left more GI Bill money in my pocket.</p>

<p>My son (a junior in HS) applied for extended time accommodations for the SAT a year ago, and they have repeatedly denied it, saying that more information is needed. In frustration, we signed up for the ACT in June and rushed in the accommodations forms. They gave us the answer - yes - in two days!</p>

<p>He’ll get 50% extended time, which he needs. </p>

<p>If you have any question abotu whether your child will be granted extra time, fill out the forms for both the SAT and the ACT. One may say yes, and one may say no. Just about any school accepts either test, and many schools allow you to skip the SAT II if you take the ACT.</p>

<p>I took the ACT. I’m a terrible timed test taker. I usually get A’s on every test in school and college because my teachers know that I study and am prepared but take a long time to take them so they allow me to take as much time as I need. I took the ACT every time with extra time. I could not pay attention and pace myself well when I took them all on one day so I did better taking each one on a separate day. Here are the scores I got.</p>

<p>Practice ACT in 10th grade with no extra time: 14
Act with extra time but all in one day: 17 and then a 21 the next time
Act with 50% extra time and taking one section a day: 24 </p>

<p>I did terrible on the practice one obviously but I don’t think I was prepared enough yet, I didn’t have near enough time and I got so frustrated with the timing problems that I gave up. Finished less than half of it. First time I took the real ACT, I was the one pacing it and taking them all at once. I had 6 hours to take them all I think (whatever 50% more time was) but I lost focus and didn’t even get to the last section so I had to guess on all of the last section and most of the second to last section. The last time I took the ACT I took one test a day for a week over the summer at my high school. I did much better (24). I still didn’t finish them all and if I had taken it one more time after my junior year I think I would have done better but I had a good enough score to get into the school I wanted and I didn’t care enough to take it again due to all the frustration it caused. I still don’t understand why tests need to be timed. Either you know it or you don’t, why does it matter how fast it takes you to do it?</p>

<p>My son has taken the SAT three times with no score over a 1000 (highest 640M 330V). He has taken the ACT once: 21. He is a high school senior attending a Middle College and on track to earn an Associate Degree in Science before his high school graduation in 2012. He has always had difficulty with reading comprehension but we never allowed it to be used as an excuse. He was recently diagnosed with mild dyslexia (DSM-IV-TR: Reading Disorder 315.00) and ADHD. He has been denied once for unlimited time on the ACT and is currently gathering additional documentation including letters from current and previous teachers. We are also preparing to send the request for 100% extended time on the SAT. I will update as I receive information.</p>

<p>We took my son to a highly respected educational psychologist for a full battery of tests when he was in 7th grade. Documentation is key to accomodations and having someone who can analyze the data in written form is crucial.</p>

<p>My son is gifted with dyslexia and dysgraphia. He took the psat’s with no accomodations. I don’t remember the scores, but they were so bad I was sweating over the sat’s.</p>

<p>He took the sat’s with 50% more time, large answer sheet and a keyboard for the writing. (our ed. specialist at school had never seen anyone get the keyboard before and she said it was because of the documentation)</p>

<p>He got a 770 math/530 cr as his two highest scores. He used a little extra time for the math, used most of the time on cr. That being said, getting the extra time makes the test an all day affair, which can be just as difficult for some to stay focused that long as it is to be rushed.</p>

<p>ADHD diagnosis at age 7, also fine motor difficulties.
100% extra time.</p>

<p>Scores without extra time
M690/CR670/W510
with extra time
M740/CR710/W600</p>

<p>Also has extra time for school testing, but is not using it.</p>

<p>I think having extended time is really important–
30–>34.</p>

<p>Extended time can absolutely make a huge difference for ADHD students, usually for the better, occasionally for the worse (especially for students taking the SAT). I’m an online test prep tutor specializing in ADHD students, and I often do some diagnostic testing with students with both regular and extended time to see how things fall out. Usually, extended time wins! Not a surprise, right? In many cases, the ACT’s accommodations policies are more ADHD friendly, so unless a student has a strong preference for the SAT, I encourage them to consider the ACT.</p>

<p>It’s not unusual for students to not want to use accommodations even when they qualify. While I understand they don’t want the stigma, or feel that it’s “unfair” to their friends, there are real advantages to using accommodations in most cases. The tests are a big deal with possibly life long repercussions, so if you qualify, use them and don’t look back!</p>

<p>I am interested in requesting extra time accommodation for my daughter who has ADHD. Her initial diagnosis was made in October 2007 in the 7th grade, and she has been on a 504 since September 2009, 9th grade. She is now in the 11th grade. Do I have to get her re-tested before I submit a request for accommodation? From the ACT site:</p>

<p>“For the ACT, the disability must have been diagnosed or reconfirmed by a qualified professional within the 3 academic years prior to the date of the request.”</p>

<p>Just want to be sure I am understanding everything correctly.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>A current 504 MAY be sufficient. Talk to her school counselor that handles accommodations for more information. If she’s requesting just the standard extended time, a 504 may do the job. It’s a good idea to submit the accommodations request to the ACT as soon as possible so if she’s turned down, there’s still plenty of time to gather additional documentation.</p>

<p>The primary reason I say MAY is it may depend on how well the 504 plan corresponds with the accommodations she’s requesting. I’ve done a lot of testing for students seeking accommodations (and I’m a test prep tutor specializing in ADHD), and it can be very helpful to have a current report from an educational psychologist or neuropsychologist that specifically addresses the reasons for the accommodations she’s requesting. Something else to consider is that if she’s going to request accommodations in college, the colleges may require more current testing, too. If she’s got some choices in mind already, check with their student disabilities offices to check their requirements.</p>

<p>Good luck to your daughter! The ACT is almost always the better choice for ADHD students so she’s already on the right track :)</p>

<p>Thanks, swans004. Her 504 does includes extended time testing for math if needed and requested. D’s counselor proctored her for the PSAT and ACT PLAN and noted that she did not think that D needed extra time because she seemed to finish the math sections early. But, I have seen her study for the ACT and she just doesn’t attempt some of the problems because she doesn’t think she can get them finished. She will have new testing this summer since hers is becoming outdated, but she is planning to take the ACT again before that(June). I will talk to D’s counselor next week.</p>

<p>Thanks for the tip about the ACT vs. SAT. D is signed up for the SAT next weekend, but is doing very poorly on the math practice. I am not so sure that she should even take it, and instead just focus on the ACT.</p>

<p>How would one go about finding a tutor for ACT math that focuses on ADHD?</p>

<p>@midwestmom</p>

<p>The official ACT’s standard extended time accommodations aren’t section specific, so if she is given standard extended time, it will apply to the entire test. If she has ADHD, she will likely qualify for the standard extended time accommodations if she has appropriate documentation. If her 504 includes only extended time on math however, the ACT folks may approve her for only “special accommodations” that apply only to the math section. Again, talk this over with her counselor about how to proceed. </p>

<p>If she’s already paid and ready to take the SAT next weekend, it certainly does’t hurt. Some students really prefer the SAT’s format, and for me, format preference trumps accommodations most of the time. However, personal experience is that most ADHD kids are going to have a better time with the ACT.</p>

<p>There’s a few ways to look into tutors. I work online, and specialize in ADHD kids, so I’m happy to work with her! In general, kids like the online format (and were certainly more comfortable with it from the outset than I was!). Feel free to send me a message with your email address if you’d like to chat about possibly scheduling a pre-tutoring “get to know you” session. </p>

<p>But, if you think she’ll really do best with someone in the same room, there’s a few things you can try. Give local pros that work with ADHD a call to see if they know any specialists. Counselors at schools that work only with special needs students can be a great resource as well.</p>

<p>Hope all that helps. Good luck!</p>

<p>DS denied extended time on SAT; granted extended time (50%) on ACT. He has ADD and dysgraphia.</p>

<p>SAT 760 M; 720 CR; 620 W (67m/6essay); 1480/2100</p>

<p>ACT 32 M; 33 Reading; 35 Science; 35 English; 35/12 Writing; 34 composite</p>

<p>M/CR is about equilv. to ACT, but the extended time was a HUGE help on the essay.</p>

<p>DS was the only one in the extended time room and he was permitted to end a section early and not use the full extended time. Essay was the only place he used full time.</p>

<p>He does use extended time in the classroom. Most of his tests are essay tests.</p>

<p>edit to add - his most recent diagnostic testing was summer 2011. The testing was sent to both SAT and ACT when requesting the extended time. College Board specifically denied based upon PSAT scores. Frustrating to me since PSAT doesn’t have an essay and that is his most difficult area to complete within the timing.</p>

<p>BOONDOCKS what was ur diagnosis for the extended time that u recieved?</p>

<p>High-functioning autistic here. Math is my strong suit, but I have issues with reading comprehension and inference. I never took the SAT without 50% extended time(and only once), but I once took the PSAT/NMSQT without extended time my sophomore year. Then I took it my junior year, this time with extended time. Results:</p>

<p>Soph. PSAT: 44 Reading, 50 Writing, 60 Math, 154 total (no extended time)
Jun. PSAT: 53 Reading, 62 Writing, 70 Math, 185 total (with extended time)
Jun. SAT: 560 Reading, 600 Writing, 740 Math, 1900 total (with extended time)</p>

<p>LD kids, don’t refuse whatever accommodations you’re granted, especially if your collegiate future may depend on it.</p>