ACT Score of 28 Good Enough?

Colleges and Universities A-Z Air Force Academy - Colorado Springs
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<p>I’m applying for the class of 2013 and my current ACT score from April is a 28. I was registered for the ACT on June 14, however I’m seriously sick and taking the test in my current state would probably see a drop. Also, taking the ACT in September probably won’t have the scores in time for me to send them out for Congressional nominations. So do you guys think a 28 is good enough for me to be competitive for a nomination?</p>

<p>Push Ups: 35 for now.
Sit Ups: 55 for now.
Mile Run: About 7:30.
Pull Ups: 6</p>

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<p>Looking at your current CFA scores, I would probably get cracking on those, since competitive scores are quite a bit higher in each area. But with work you should be able to see a substantial increase.</p>

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<p>I got a 28 all 3 times I took it, and I was accepted in Jan. But I would also just concentrate on one subject... like math, then the next one I worked on science. But I would advise working on your pushups and situps! :)</p>

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<p>Thanks for the info. Unfortunately I had shoulder surgery so my arms out of commission for the moment so I'm focusing on sit-ups mostly.</p>

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<p>Will you also take the SAT? What is your GPA? What about your EC's, gc rec, teacher rec and ALO rec? In regards to your CFA...look up the mx and try to obtain them...my memory of max scores for sit ups was in the hi 80's(I think 87 or 89) push-ups close 80, pull-ups @18, BB throw 100, run in the 5-6 min, and can't remember the shuttle.</p>

<p>Remember people will start telling you it is the WCS that matters, and your GPA, SAT/ACT, Recs, ECs, CFA are all apart of them.</p>

<p>Go and search the net for the class profile of 11, and see how you stand academically to them...if you fall short, make sure you are superior in other areas.</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

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<p>Took the SAT and only got a 1840. On a 4.0 scale, my GPA is a 3.495 unweighted, taking all International Baccalaureate classes.</p>

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<p>Well the writting portion dosn't count, so it would be helpful to see your SAT scores for each sections. </p>

<p>Also its truly a whole candidate type of selection. So maybe you are lower when it comes to academics, but that can be made up for by scoring high in other areas such as leadership.</p>

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<p>Math: 630
Reading: 610</p>

<p>I'm pretty lacking in leadership besides the Boys State Program. I have 50 hours of community service and a couple of extracurricular activities though.</p>

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<p>It's quality versus quantity when it comes to E.C.s. But try to look for leadership opportunities within those activities.</p>

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<p>Here are some statistics on SAT and ACT which I found on the Air force Academy's website (Air</a> Force Academy)</p>

<p>SAT Mid-50%Range / Mean
Critical Reading/Verbal 590-660 / 629
Math 630-690 / 658 </p>

<p>ACT Mid-50% Range / Mean
English 27-31 / 29
Reading 28-32 /30
Mathematics 28-32 / 30
Science Reasoning 27-31 / 29 </p>

<p>So from that you can see how your scores fit in. However SAT/ACT is just one portion.</p>

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<p>Kb are you sure about the writing? I thought they said last year was the last it wouldn't count. I believe the USMA and USNA has already officially announced it is now counting. </p>

<p>Besides, even if it doesn't count it is visible on your profile, which means they can see it, but they might not count into the scoring process.</p>

<p>I would take the ACT and SAT over since the AFA superscores...no harm no foul. DS went up 70 pts in math on his second SAT. If I added correctly you received a 600 on the written portion which isn't bad. </p>

<p>In case you haven't found the scoring part...this should help in letting you know how you fare:</p>

<p>Students who score below 580 verbal and 560 math on the SAT Reasoning and below 24 English/reading and 25 math/science reasoning on the ACT normally will not be competitive for an appointment. </p>

<p>As Kb showed this means that their mean score is a 30, their mid 50% range is a 28.</p>

<p>The question for you would be do you want to be in the mid 50% range? </p>

<p>I also agree with AZcadet, they are looking for leadership. In our DS's case he didn't have traditional athletics behind him, however, he was a National champ for Tae Kwon Do, and a 2 time state champ in Form and 2 times in Sparring. He had his Master write a letter explaining that he was on the jr. olympic team for the state, training 20 hrs a week/52 weeks a yr. He also sent a letter from his boss (he is a Sr. lifeguard) describing in detail how many saves he had, how many hrs a week he worked, how many guards reported to him during his shift and what was mandated testing for certification, such as, the time limit for swimming, retrieving a 10 lb weight in 10 ft and exiting the pool without ladders in less than 1 min. </p>

<p>They want to see leadership, but they are flexible in the form that it comes in, same is true for sports. It is true that traditional school athletics is better, but if you have taken a non-traditional route, than show it. This is the time to shine, if you have 50 hrs in community, show how you made the difference...if you have a job that demands athleticism, tell your ALO, send additional info to be put in your file from your boss. </p>

<p>If you are a tutor for the school, that is leadership. State I was selected to be a tutor for X class. I tutor X amt of hrs per week while maintaining my GPA. If you are the only tutor or 1 of a few say that. </p>

<p>If you volunteer for Relay to Life as the person who collects all of the donations, expound on the details, do not just say I volunteer 10 hrs for Relay, state my position for Relay was to coordinate all of the financial contributions were accounted and submitted by me within X amount of hrs. We raised X dollars and had X amount of participants. </p>

<p>I hope you are getting my drift...stating I have 50 community hrs, means nothing, is it over 4 yrs, or the last 4 mos? Is it for 1 org. that you really make a difference or for 10 where you are just a cog in the wheel?</p>

<p>It is all about how you project yourself! In the next 6-9 mos. you will see alot of kids/parents joining in this site, believe it or not you have a leg up. Many of the candidates will never find this site, most will find it in Aug/Sep time frame. Listen to their advice...they got the golden ticket. Each and everyone has a different story of why they are there, but there is a main component. They are already leaders. Just by donating their time to this forum, they are helping the AF get the best, and they are stating what is needed. These same people will be the ones berating you at BCT, but they know that you can handle it! </p>

<p>Finally, why did you have shoulder surgery? Will this cause a DQ, if so start working on it now.</p>

<p>As far as your MOC interviews, in our state it is similiar to the AFA board, in other words the entire picture. Additionally only 1 MOC gave interviews, it was Jan. 5, basically everyone he interviewed recieved the nom...paperwork was due Dec. 1 and from there it was whittled down.</p>

<p>Do not submit your CFA until you have maxed out or you are sure that you can't get anything more out of your body. Remember the bulk of appts go out in MAR, right now your numbers are low...max sit-ups are in the hi 80's, push-ups are in the high 70's, bb throw is 100, run is @5:30, pull-ups are 18.</p>

<p>I know that you are probably feeling down about my post, but now you have some realism, what you do with it is up to you. If you throw in the towel and say I won't/can't get in than that is your choice...if you say here is the bar that I need to clear and if I do X,Y and Z I am in than you will be in!</p>

<p>I am a Mom and sometimes we need to shake it up! I would much rather see that you have the real pic in a straight foward manner than have you lose the chance of getting your dream. The ball is in your court, it is now all up to you!</p>

<p>Believe it or not, I am sure you will hit it out of the park...being on this site shows you want it and determination will take you very far in the military. Good Luck...Aim High (sorry Above All doesn't work in the statement ;) )</p>

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<p>Pima, you were pretty close, but just so JLimmy knows exactly what he needs to do, the CFA maximums are as follows:</p>

<p>Basketball Throw: 102 feet
Pull-ups: 18
Shuttle Run: 7.8 seconds
Sit-ups: 95
Push-ups: 72
Mile Run: 5:20</p>

<p>JLimmy, definitely strive to exceed the averages in each event. Aim for the maxes because they will boost your WCS significantly. I imagine that there are probably a lot of candidates who wing the CFA, so if you can make yourself shine there, then the admissions board will see that you are fit enough to handle the rigors of BCT and cadet life.</p>

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<p>Thanks AFA2B...that is why I said vague numbers. Your correct numbers will help every applicant since they now know what they need to max out!</p>

<p>Okay, I will now expound on how important the CFA is for the AFA...our DS will hate me.</p>

<p>DS thought it was just a no-nothing factor and since we had not found this site or United</a> States of America Service Academy Forums - Powered by vBulletin, Bullet and I also felt it was just a PT test (remember Bullet is ADAF) so we didn't stress on it, we stressed on the fact that he needed to get it done and to do it correctly. DS did it in Dec. handed in his scores, this is what I recall the scores to be:</p>

<p>BB :66
shuttle 8.9
sit-ups 67
push-ups 55
pull-ups 6
mile 7:41</p>

<p>His regional emailed him back and asked for him to re-do it...remember he has athletics in his background. It is also not common to be asked for a 2nd, or so they told him.</p>

<p>He practiced for a couple of weeks, we put a pull-up bar in his doorway and made him do at least 5 everytime he entered or exited.</p>

<p>His final CFA was:
BB 77
sit-ups 97
push-ups 79
pull-ups 14
shuttle: 8.4
mile 7:14</p>

<p>That all occurred within less than 2 mos. if you have the motivation you can do it with very little effort, @ 30 min. a day. The Pull-up bar was the best investment, and if you say everytime I go in or out I must do X amt, you will get stronger. Practicing all of the CFA components doesn't take alot of time. DS would go out in the yard and throw the ball with our dog, she would bring it back, it was fun for the two of them. He also would sprint with her chasing him and turn back quickly, similiar to the shuttle. Bullet and DS would do sit-ups together as I counted, same was true for push-ups. Since he was a lifeguard at the Y, he would bring friends in on a buddy pass to work out or swim to build stamina...it doesn't have to be about just doing the test, it can also be fun!</p>

<p>Side note he is now at the max and is still in the habit...his friends also do it when they enter or exit...very comical to watch...b/c as we all know the testerone effect is pouring out and they all 1 up ea other!</p>

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<p>Thanks everyone I really appreciate all of the responses.</p>