If a student is applying for Michigan COE, does the Adcom consider subscore?
For example, if a student has a 34 ACT but only a 31 on Math does that hurt their chances? or If a Student has a 32 with high subscores on Math and Science, but lower scores on English and Writing, does that help their chances?
They do pay attention to Math section score as well as the composite. The 25th percentile for Math section score among enrolled freshmen had been around 31-32. Admission stat is usually a little bit higher than enrolled freshmen stat. So getting 31 in Math score does hurt a little bit in chance for CoE.
@billcsho Thank you for the information.
I was also told by one person that students do not really get admitted to COE initially, but have to go through a year of general classes first? I don’t think that is right or they would not be applying to COE, so I am confused about that. Maybe they don’t pick a major for a year? Can you help me understand how that works. I is hard to sort this all out when each school does it differently. lol
@Much2learn Your info is incorrect. For CoE, you apply directly to CoE. You can actually find separated admission statistics for CoE. Nevertheless, one may transfer from LSA to CoE after freshmen year if completed the required courses. It is not difficult, but not guarantee either. At UMich, you don’t apply to a specific major (with a few exceptions). You declare your major after 1 or 2 semesters or even later.
Thank you. That is helpful.
Sorry for so many questions, but I have one more. If she applies to CoE, can she also indicate that she would be interested in LSA as a second choice? I know that some schools do this and some do not.
Thank you again, @Billcsho . Whatever Michigan is paying you, it is not enough! lol. I bet the school has no idea how much your helpful responses contribute to incrementally strengthening Michigan’s applicant pool.
@Much2learn LOL. UMich indeed pay me something. When I worked there, and the scholarships for my D. 
There is no second choice school on the application. So your D has to choose one that fit her most. Note that the “why this school” essay should be specific for the school (CoE, LSA, or others) although there may be something common for all. Do you know what major in CoE she is interested in? If she want to major in Computer Science, it is also available in LSA. If she applied to CoE EA and got deferred, she may contact the admission office and switch to LSA if she wants. If she has set her heart for UMich CoE, she may also consider applying to UM-Flint engineering where they guarantee transfer to UMich CoE if minimal requirement is met.
@billcsho “Do you know what major in CoE she is interested in?”
She is currently focused on Chemical Engineering and Material Science, but I could easily see her becoming interested in computer science, in that first year of exploring. CS is her older sister’s major.
@billscho “UM-Flint engineering where they guarantee transfer to UMich CoE if minimal requirement is met.”
Thanks for the tidbit about UM-Flint. That is worth looking into.
@billscho “If she has set her heart for UMich CoE”
She really does not at this point. I rerouted her away from Michigan because I thought it was too much of a reach. She is now looking at Tufts, Lehigh, Wisconsin, Illinois.
However, her counselor has pushed her to reconsider Michigan and apply. His view it that while her stats are a bit below average, they are well within the range of students that Michigan has taken from our high school, and that she is the kind of kid who Michigan has admitted when they admit a student with somewhat weak stats (for UofM lol) because she has been busy with very time consuming ECs and her math subscore is a 34. The high school has about 40 admits per year to Michigan and about 13 - 15 students enroll there every year, so I am assuming the counselor must know more than I do about the unpublished details of who gets in. He isn’t saying they will admit her, just that girls like her do get in and that the chance is a lot higher than the “close to zero” that I was thinking when I rerouted her to something that looked more feasible.
Time will tell.
Thank you for your insights. All thoughts are appreciated. If she gets in, perhaps I can buy you a beer when we visit sometime. 
If you get a beer for every poster that gets admitted you may become rich!
You probably misunderstood.
Most students will take very few engineering classes their first year (probably 80% will take exactly 2, both of which have LSA replacements, most of the rest will only take a few) but they’re still enrolled in the college of engineering. Though as was pointed out, starting in LSA and transferring after 1 year is fairly common and relatively easy. The first year is mostly Math, Chemistry, Physics, etc that are in LSA. The two classes she’d miss out on are Engr100 (which can be replaced by English 125) and Engr101 (which can be replaced by EECS 183).
Flint is not a good school and Flint is not a good place. I wouldn’t recommend going that route. If she cannot get into Ann Arbor but wants to stay in the Southeast MI area she can go to a community college, or even Dearborn. Guaranteed admissions isn’t that huge of a deal, it’s fairly easy to transfer to Michigan from any school in the state of Michigan.
31 Math is not great but 34 overall is very good so it should probably balance out to a “good enough” ACT score. If she can’t retake it she should at least still apply. We don’t have any of her other stats but if her GPA and other factors are equally strong she has a very good chance still. And if her other stats are strong she’d almost certainly get into LSA where they’re not especially weighing the Math score. And she’d be able to transfer from LSA to CoE.
Flint is definitely not a safe area. It is among the top 3 for crime in the nation I think.